Duce50Boom
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What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Mon Aug 23, 2004 4:30 am

I've heard alot of different things. The avionics are a pain in the ass. They love them, etc.

What do FedEx pilots and maintainers actually think of the aircraft?
 
FoxHunter
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:44 am

Great airplane to fly, though the MD-10-10 is a little underpowered. A flightcrew can fly the MD10 to a domestic location and then be scheduled to fly the MD11 overseas. I believe we fly 35 at present, plus another 4 coming this year, 11 next. I've heard we will have 83 or 89 at the end of the conversion program
 
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:14 am

Glad to hear the MD-10's are coming 'on-line'. I was out in AMA when FEDX started flying the former AA DC-10's out of there. Most where pretty well stripped out just after of the cockpit door and at that time looking pretty sad.
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nwafflyer
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:41 am

When I fly into IND, and taxi past the FedEx, are those DC-10's, MD 10's, or MD 11's?
 
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:05 pm

I work on the MD10's here in PHX all the time. They are great !!! Of course I loved the Dc10 anyway.... But like we always say " you can take a hog, put a wig and lipstick on it, you can even call it Marylou. But its still a hog."
Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
 
gigneil
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:59 am

When I fly into IND, and taxi past the FedEx, are those DC-10's, MD 10's, or MD 11's?

It could be d) all of the above.

The only visible difference between the MD10 and DC10 is the "MD10" written on the nose on FX planes.

The MD-11 is bigger, and has winglets.

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DeskPilot
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:11 pm

How come FedEx chose to go with DC-10/MD-10/MD-11 ?

Why don't the reasons why the passenger carriers dropped these types not apply to a pure cargo operator ?

Seen the same thing here in Aus with cargo carriers picking up ex passenger 727s for conversion to pure cargo.
By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
 
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:31 am

DeskPilot,
old airplanes are cheap to purchase. That justifies the cost of ordering brand new ones and making payments on them all the time. Also, DC10 and A300 are great platforms for cargo operators.
727 is also cheap and flies fast as well.

Hope this helps,

Baha
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doug_or
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:18 am

Cargo operators ususaly fly older aircraft becauyse they will have a lower utilization. Becuase passenger aircraft fly more hours per day, the reduced cost in MX and gas makes up for the higher purchase price of a newer aircraft. Becuase cargo aircraft fly less, the aquisition cost is a larger part of the equation, so it makes sense to keep it down by buying cheaper aircraft (as bahadir said).
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:50 pm

Not to mention that cargo isn't going to complain about the lack of IFE on 727s versus JetBlue's much younger A320s.
 
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:16 am

Why didn't Fed Ex find satisfaction with the 747 freighter?
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:44 am

As of August 1st Fedex has 33 MD-10s in service. 4 more are slated to be converted by December, plus another 6 by mid 2005.

As far as the 747s, Fedex inherited a pretty mixed fleet of 747s from Flying Tigers. Fleet included -100s and -200s with a mix of 3 different engine types, JT9D-7A, 7Q and the 70A. The -100s were quickly shed and a small fleet of 6-8 -200Fs were operated until 96 or 97.

I believe the 747s were primarily let go as they were not economic in such a small fleet count, and also the 747 was not a good fit for the Fedex network. As the MD-11 fleet grew in size it quickly became the aircraft of choice for international flying plus the heavier domestic routes.

I also know the Fedex B747 fleet suffered from poor reliability compared to other fleet types at the company.

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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:56 am

nwafflyer,
As Gignil said, you can look at the nose for "MD-10" painted, or you can look at the top of the fuselage at the VHF blade antenna. On the DC-10's they are located on the centerline roughly above the middle of the main cargo door, while on the MD-10, they were relocated to the same position as an MD-11, which is much farther back towards the tail.
 
gigneil
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:20 am

How come FedEx chose to go with DC-10/MD-10/MD-11 ?

FedEx operated the DC-10 as new builds, and received the very first flying MD-11. There were a host of reasons, mostly that Boeing didn't make a plane that size and the L-1011 was harder to come by.

Since they made those choices, many DC-10 and MD-11s became available second-hand, and FedEx snapped those up.

I believe the 747s were primarily let go as they were not economic in such a small fleet count, and also the 747 was not a good fit for the Fedex network.

The 747s are great freighters, but poor package/parcel freighters. They're huge and cavernous, but that matters not when loading standard containers.

The DC-10 and MD-11 are great planes for that. The 380 will be too. I imagine the A330 and 777 would be as well.

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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:16 am

I know that the MD-10's have a MD-11 style glass cockpit. But do the MD-10's have updated(like some 727 have been updated with MD-80 engines), engines or do they have the original engines?

p.s. I know nothing about techs (no more than the bands of engines i.e.:P&W, GE, CFM, RR) so I know that I'm using laymen terms, please be patient, thanks
 
gigneil
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Sun Aug 29, 2004 9:21 am

I can make it as layman as possible.

No.

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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Sun Aug 29, 2004 12:40 pm

Gigneil-
That is perfect, thanks
 
nightflyer
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RE: What Does FedEx Think Of Their MD-10s?

Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:55 am

Same engines as the DC10.


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