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CRJ Question

Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:08 pm

I searched the fourm, and came up with nothing. I was wondering, does the CRJ-200 comewith auto-throttle? Thanks!
23 victor, turn right heading 210, maintain 3000 till established, cleared ILS runwy 24.
 
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RE: CRJ Question

Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:42 pm

Apparently some European carriers have it equipped.


We Americans do have autothrust, too though..we abbreviate it as "IPMHOTTLAIMT"..which stands for "I Put My Hand On The Thrust Levers and I Move Them."  Smile




Something funny- a NW mainline pilot was jumpseating in the back...walked up front after the flight and goes "wow, the CRJ has the smoothest auto-throttles around." Gotta laugh at that one...can't remember quite what I said back to him.
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RE: CRJ Question

Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:55 pm

Hey, thanks XFSU! Been to detroit lately?
23 victor, turn right heading 210, maintain 3000 till established, cleared ILS runwy 24.
 
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RE: CRJ Question

Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:17 am

There right now... I've got an apartment in the Novi area. I'm DTW based.
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RE: CRJ Question

Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:30 am

There is an autothrottle available for the CRJ-100/200 as an aftermarket STC. From Safe Flight's website:

Safe Flight's Automatic Throttle System Receives FAA Certification for Bombardier CRJ100/200 Regional Business Jet

WHITE PLAINS, NY, July 30, 2003 - Safe Flight Instrument Corporation today announced receipt of an FAA Supplemental Type Certificate of the company's AutoPower® System, a full-authority automatic throttle system for the Bombardier CRJ100/200 Regional Jet.....

The system provides takeoff to touchdown dual-servo control of the thrust levers in harmony with Aircraft Flight Control System vertical modes and Vertical Navigation target speeds. It uses the Flight Management System Thrust Management table-based N1 limit and target calculations as displayed on the Engine Indication and Crew Alerting Sytem N1 Fan Speed displays. AutoPower features glareshield-mounted mode displays and an engage switch.

"Autothrottle systems are typically found in larger aircraft. The CRJ100/200 will be the first Regional Jet in its weight class to offer such a system," said Jacques Lacasse, Program Coordinator, Fleet Services, Bombardier Aerospace. "AutoPower can be used to fly at a crew-selected speed, in cruise, descent or approach. This system promises to make the aircraft an even greater pleasure to fly, for both crew and passengers."

AutoPower benefits include: improved climb performance and payload/range potential; precise speed control; reduced crew workload; and smoother speed transitions for increased passenger comfort. It also enhances safety by automatically compensating for altitude changes and fuel burn to prevent potentially damaging engine overspeed/overtemp operation.

Studies indicate that automatic throttles can result in fuel savings. As aircraft weight reduces due to fuel burn, AutoPower maintains the pilot-selected speed by automatically reducing thrust for greater fuel efficiency. Additionally, AutoPower has aligned the CRJ100/200 cockpit with technologies of bigger jets, allowing the pilots to consistently fly to the optimum of the engine's performance. The system allows operators to be ahead of the curve when future requirements for RTA (Required Time of Arrival) are implemented.

Mr. Lacasse further noted that "Bombardier selected the Safe Flight AutoPower System for the CRJ100/200 because of its proven design and track record. AutoPower systems and components from Safe Flight Instrument Corporation have demonstrated unprecedented reliability on more than 9,000 corporate, commercial and military aircraft including the Bombardier 604."

AutoPower is now available for in-service aircraft retrofit installation through Bombardier Fleet Services.

Safe Flight Instrument Corporation, a leader in aviation safety and flight performance systems, was founded in 1946. Headquartered in White Plains, New York, the company pioneered the development of Stall Warning, Automatic Throttles, Wind Shear Warning, and many other innovations in aircraft instrumentation and control systems for fixed- and rotary-winged aircraft. Safe Flight products are installed on over two-thirds of the world's aircraft - in general aviation, commercial, and military sectors.
 
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RE: CRJ Question

Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:00 am

Autothrottle is called First Officer (set takeoff thrust, punk)

First Officer is also the standard procedure when autopilot is INOP.
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RE: CRJ Question

Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:39 am

Yes sir, gear up.... I'll take the ugly one!
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RE: CRJ Question

Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:09 pm

I remember having the A/T inop one day on the 757, believe me it's hard work after several thousand hours with it on!

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RE: CRJ Question

Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:00 pm

Hi all,
we don´t have that Autothrottle system on the 200 series either. on some planes this is even more annoying because you would also have a decent split between the two levers for the same setting.
On the CRJ 700 there isn´t really a A/T, but you have some detent positions for T/O, Climb and G/A thrust. Makes your life a lot easier.

Denis

PS: In addition to XFU´s last post: the three most important call outs for the F/O are: Right side is clear//Nice landing// I´ll take the fat one...
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RE: CRJ Question

Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:19 pm

At my airline we only have fat, ugly ones..... or so it seems.

And we only have one! My how I miss the good old days flying at SWISS where we had beautiful, friendly, multi-lingual and most importantly, competent, flight attendants.

The ones at my new company are competent, but the other descriptors can be dropped....

No A/T on my CRJ-200s. I suppose it might be a good thing as we could use all the help we can get on the climb, but I am not really sure that adding 1/10% of N1 will really help us that much when we are doing just 500 fpm struggling to get to FL310.

Having never flown with A/T I don't really know what it is like, but I have been told it does reduce workload.

But for me I just wish I could figure out how to land this plane when it is windy. I used to fly the Saab 2000 and that was a good one in gusty cross winds. The CRJ is a bit squirrely, and with that low wing I am scared to bank much into the wind.

Any tips?
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RE: CRJ Question

Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:46 am

Saab-

Try a 250/.70M knot climb- that certainly aids things in getting on up there. That is our "efficiency" climb profile in the book.


Also in the crosswinds... only start adding a bit of wing dip while you are in your flare... mostly rudder kick and that bit of aileron to keep you still over the centerline..then hard aileron into the wind once the wheels touch down and the GLD's deploy.

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