airliner777
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Iberia A340 @ BOG

Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:36 am

I would like to know how Iberia's A340-300s manage to take off from a 8,000ft MSL airport, and then fly non-stop to Madrid. I was looking for information regarding this flight, and through iberia.com and other sources it shows that they fly non-stop from BOG-MAD. I know Iberia flies into Quito, but on their way back to MAD they refuel at Guayaquil (which is understandable). Does any of you guys have any information about my question?

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anxebla
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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:03 am

Yes, IB do MAD-BOG-MAD daily. I did that route 2 times.... but, what do you want to ask exactily????
The IB route to Ecuador is Madrid-Quito-Guayaquil-Madrid. Quito has a short runway, and it's necesary to go GYE.
Air Madrid, for instance, do MAD-UIO-PTY-MAD ... it's unable to fly from UIO to Europe non-stop. (well... possible it is, but with a few pax and it will not be profitable at all)
miamiair... what reply so interesant!!!  Wink/being sarcastic
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airliner777
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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:14 am

The runway at BOG is quite long, but what approximate payload amount does this flight carries onboard?

Miamiair: no comments.... hehe
 
anxebla
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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:28 am

I don't know about the payload amout, but I can to say that when I did the BOG-MAD leg, the plane (EC-GGS, the oldest IB's A340-300) was overcrowded
No any free seat!!!
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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:29 am

You're correct about the runway. I know both runways are 12,500 feet long. My guess is that BOG is at a distance just necessary for no re-fuel, and that any farther from Spain might need a splash-n-go.

Alfredo
 
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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:31 pm

Thank you for the help!  Big grin
 
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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm

Hello, Airliner777

I also flew on IB and AF with A340's nonstop MAD-BOG and CDG-BOG and LHR-CCS-BOG with a B767 and B777. All flights... almost full everytime!!!


about your question.... maybe this info can help you... its from an AV pilot form another topic
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1773302/6/


Saludos
Willem Alberto



At AV, our case here at BOG at 8360 feet above sea level; our B767-383 with PW4060 engines is severely restricted.

At BOG, Flaps 5, Improved Climb and 14° C at 23:45Z, MTOW 340,000 lbs due to the altitude and the obstacle limitations in case of an engine failure after V1 (second segment climb limited).

Normal Limitations:
MTW 409,000 lbs
MTOW 408,000 lbs
MLW 320,000 lbs
MZFW 288,000 lbs


The aircraft with a full passenger load of 210 and their luggage is capable of a 6:00 hour flight from BOG. For example EZE, SCL or JFK which are less than 6:00 hours from BOG.

For any flight of more than 6:00 hours to carry a full passenger load and their luggage, a fueling stop is mandatory at an airport without the altitude limitations of BOG; or a reduction of passengers and luggage is required.

In the case of the MAD flight from BOG, for the fuel stop it can be CTG, BAQ or MIQ which all are at sea level where the maximum take-off weight can be used.

Regards:
AV757

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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:56 am

Both IB and AF A340-300's operate non stop to MAD and PAR from BOG, it can be done with major restrictions to the maximum take-off weight, sacrificing passenger loads and zero cargo allowed due to the performance reductions and limitations imposed on the aircraft due to loss of engine and wing lift performance due to the 8360 foot above sea level altitude of BOG.
Plus more limitations on aircraft second segment climb limits imposed by obstacles to the A340-300 in case of an engine failure, since its 3 engine performance here at BOG´s altitude after take-off is pretty poor.

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RE: Iberia A340 @ BOG

Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:35 am

AVB757... IB's A343 restrictions??? I understand that the A340-300's don't have restrictions when opering at BOG.See my reply nº3.
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