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Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:41 am

Regarding flights that have frequencies of once a week (mostly charters), do the air crew stay for the whole week? Or do they return with the flight?
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akjetBlue
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:04 am

I can only guess they dead head back, or get very little per diem...
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Crosswind
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:09 am

Depends on where the crew are;
If they have operated to a region where the airline doesn't have many other flights they'll get a week long trip. Positioning the whole crew to pick up a flight from another airport generally isn't practical in these situations.

If they're somewhere like the Caribbean, the airline will generally have a flight every day, but often out of different islands. In these situations the crew will tend to position to another island the day after arrival, take 2-3 days rest, and operate home from there.

Crew routes are part of the basic planning that go into any new service...

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KateAA
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:24 am

Hey,

One of my friends who work for Monarch Airlines seems to have a very nice time away. MON do ad hoc flights for P&O Cruises out of Barbados from Mid Nov thou Late April.

There are a number of flights that all arrive on the Friday, the crew stay seven nights, until the next Friday when they fly cruises passengers back!

This is mainly because P&O Cruises only have two ships that arrive once a week in Barbados...

Lord why cant I work for MON!?

Kate.
 
Rick767
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:11 am

Had countless 3, 4 and 7 night layovers in Florida / Caribbean in my days with Brits... good per diem allowances as well! 9 hour duty out, 7 days beach dwelling and drinking with great crews, 9 hour duty home.

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tt737fo
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:16 am

I guess it all depends on the carrier.

I am a UAL furloughee. I am a "new hire" for a cargo airline that is based out of IAD, and the company pays to commercial me from my home (southern WI) to pick up a trip--could be anywhere in the world. Basic schedule is 18 on 12 off (days, that is).

Recent example. I flew commercial from Milwaukee to Fairbanks, Alaska. Overnighted in Fairbanks. Picked up an extra trip that went from Fairbanks (Eilson), Elemendorf, to Mountain Home--plane (DC-10F)had come from a Japan rotation (Kadena-Yokota-Eilson). We met the off-coming crew at the Captain Bartlett Inn--they were going to commercial to HNL the next day for another Pacific rotation.

Got 9 hours rest in Mountain Home. We then flew the plane empty to IAD for a check. Trip ended and I commercialed home again waiting for next phone call.

In our case, company does not want idle aircraft or crews. Time is money.

On international flights, company pays for business class. Domestic, it is a different story. In my example above, it was all UAL Economy Plus--didn't have enough miles to make it up front--LOL!
 
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:51 pm

TT737FO,

Wow -- that's quite a trip! It is great to see you back in this forum...it's been a while since the days of DC-9CAPT.

Nick
 
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:34 pm

At SQ we generally take the layover. For instance, we have cargo flights to Dublin twice a week. So you arrive on a Sat and leave on Wed or arrive on Wed and leave Sat. Meal allowance is good so, it's a nice break.
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neednewairport
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RE: Air Crew Layover Question?

Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:30 am

I am a charter airline flight attendant. I have had many, many, 2-7 day layovers while getting 2 bucks per hour per deim and staying in 4 and 5 star hotels.

To counter that, I have worked 13 hour flights and then stayed on the plane and deadheaded 13 hours back......depends on the needs of the company and the needs of the people involved with the charter.

Traditionally, the long layovers were involved when the government was paying the bill.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy In fact, just spent 47 hours in FRA.....

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