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Interesting Facts About 737NG

Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:27 am

These are from Boeings official website.An interesting read that I wanted to share them with you.

737 Facts

-Airlines ordered 737 Next-Generation 737s before the first model was delivered on Dec. 17, 1997.

-Within five years of entering service, the worldwide fleet of Next-Generation -737s surpassed 10 million flight hours, a feat equal to one airplane flying more than 1,141 years nonstop. The Next-Generation 737 is the first and only commercial jetliner to reach this milestone so quickly.

-Boeing made history again when it delivered the 1,500 th Next-Generation 737 in six years, sooner than any other commercial airplane model. The -previous record holder was the family of Classic 737-300s, -400s and -500s, which reached the milestone in 10 years. T he competing A320 family reached that mark in 13 years.

-Overall, the entire 737 family is the best selling commercial jet in history, winning orders for more than 5,300 737s. That's more than rival Airbus has sold of all its models.

-On the average about 1,250 737s are in the air at all times; one takes off every 5.3 seconds.

-The 737 fleet has carried more than 7 billion passengers.

-Since its commercial revenue service history began in 1968, the 737 fleet has flown more than 56 billion miles -- approximately 301 round trips from Earth to the sun.

-The 737 fleet has produced more than 137 million hours of revenue service for its operators -- equivalent to about 15,639 years of continuous service.

-The 737 fleet has made more than 90 million flights.

-Of the more than 15,878 Boeing/Douglas commercial jets ordered, approximately 34 percent have been 737 family members.

-Typically, about 50 gallons of paint are used to paint an average 737. Once the paint is dry, it will weigh approximately 250 pounds per airplane, depending on the paint scheme.

-There are approximately 36.6 miles of wire on the Next-Generation 737-600/-700/-800/-900 models, four miles less than the 737-300/-400/-500 models.

-On average, there are approximately 367,000 parts on a Next-Generation 737 airplane.

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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:17 pm

Interesting Data.....My Favourite Model B737.
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:41 pm

wow,

didnt know that my little tiny 737 is that successful  Wink/being sarcastic

So, no doubt, Boeing is better than Airbus  Wink/being sarcastic

NO A vs B pls... I was just kidding...

But thanks for the information... Sounds really impressive...

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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Wed Nov 17, 2004 8:40 am

Even I learned a few new things about the plane I fly every working day... thanks Wing!
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:09 am

The Boeing 737ng was designed and brought on the market so quickly that boeing had to make ( and pay fore ) a huge post delivery modification program
to fix all the design flaws , that i don't believe they made a single dime from the 737ng program.

They probably will in the future, but for now the 737ng only costs boeing money, but you won't hear that from them
 
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:49 am

Vain,

B737Ng programme is not a new invention,but just the development of older 3//4/500 series with the suggestion of the users.

As a pilot who flies both the -400 and the -800 I didnt came across a design flaw which likely will cause the company not to earn a dime from the best selling ever model.It just didnt sound logical to me but since I have no information from inside the company I can not comment too much on this issue but I would find interstin tý hear to hear your information regarding the design flaws.
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:27 am

Vain,

Such a supposed modification program would have been required to be reported, since the costs are allegedly so high, at the very least, in financial disclosures they have to file with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Care to give us a credible cite?

I'll even help you get started: http://www.freeedgar.com/ has free SEC filings.

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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:35 am



In one of the ground school classes at Southwest, I remember the instructor boasting about how vastly improved the NG waste systems are over the classics.

Apparently, some Boeing engineers calculated that any matter flushed in the NG forward lav reaches the aft holding tanks in something like 6 seconds.

"That's one fast turd", he said.


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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:08 am

B737Ng programme is not a new invention,but just the development of older 3//4/500 series with the suggestion of the users.

That isn't quite true. It has a new wing, new wingbox, new landing gear, a new tail, new avionics, new engines, new materials, new flight controls... the only thing carried over from the 733/734/735 is the fuselage diameter. The 737NG is for all practical purposes, a new aircraft.

By analogy, the 733:737NG is to A300:A330

The Boeing 737ng was designed and brought on the market so quickly that boeing had to make ( and pay fore ) a huge post delivery modification program
to fix all the design flaws , that i don't believe they made a single dime from the 737ng program.


That is a gross exaggeration.

but for now the 737ng only costs boeing money, but you won't hear that from them

Because it isn't true  Insane

We can easily deduct that BCA's profitability is from more than just the 777 line. The 717/767/747 are now just a token presence in total production, leaving the 737NG. The bulk of BCA's sales are for the 777 and 737NG, and a large piece of the pie chart has to come from somewhere..... they've sold over 2,300 of them!

Also, how could Boeing be investing in new commercial aircraft lines if their projects from 1993 havn't paid themselves off? The production ramp-up near EOS was troubeling, but it has hardly mamied the 737NG's profitability.
 
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:57 pm

Dfwrevolution,

My uncle was the chief pilot of 737400 fleet of THY couple of years ago before he retired.In one of our regular chats about "our" airplane,he told me about his experience on a meeting with Boeing factory officials.They were asking about the experiences of 737 operators and the parts that they are happy or have any complaints about it.

So -same as all other operators- my uncle filed a report about they were very happy about the technology and economy of the aircraft but they were not happy with the cruising speed and the altitude restrictions.As an example a 737 bound to Europe from Turkey is fully packed with fuel and passengers is limited around FL 310, which is used by most of the traffic(and they are way to much faster than 737400) so the ATC asks the 737 if he can climb but the plane is heavy to climb,ATC asks 737 to speed up but thats a negative too.So they bump you a lower altitude there goes you economy,passenger comfort everything.

With alot of other operators compaint about the same issues and Boeing design team improved the defects that they were criticized on the previous model.They needed to have a different wing(bigger) to climb higher and fly faster,and it required a lot of changes related to it as you mentioned.The baby boeing even developed some big boeing attitudes at low levels.

The boeing factory also says the same as you said since it changed so many parts they advertise it like they produced a new model.But for me a 757 is a different model,737800 is developed version of 737400.
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:31 pm

First of all let me say that i have nothing against Boeing, and i really love the 737, working on them for quit some years now (licensed engineer/mechanic)

I' may have a exaggerated a little, and there is no onetimebigpostmodificationprogramm as i may have suggested, it's more a constant flow of AD's, there is a list over here:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

Copypaste, linking doesn't work for some reason, sorry

Under current AD's click "by make" then "Boeing company,The" and then pick a 737ng

there is a list of all the AD's to correct what i call design flaws, most may be minor, but there are also very big ones, for instant : New elevators (pilots probably remember the 270 speed limits caused by the old elevators rumbling apart at higher speeds), new stabilizer bushings ( required complete horizontal stabilizer removal), new pitot tubes (old pitots heating element burned through = countless AOG's), on its way a new rudder system (new brackets, new PCU, wiring), new hydraulic pressurasation, new seattracks, you get the idea, remember that boeing pays for all the new parts + manhours.

So in the end, does boeing make money on the 737ng, i don't know, and boeing won't tell, in the future they sure will cause all the higher line numbers have all the AD's already incorporated, so no big expense for them there

737ng pilots probably don't see a lot from all the maintenance done on there a/c, ask your local mechanic/ engineer/ fleet mananger for more info  Smile




 
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Fri Nov 19, 2004 6:56 am

Sounds to me like those defects aren't anything really major compared to the number of 737NGs produced in terms of return on investment. I'm sure you could point at any new model and say about the same.

But then again, what do I know?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Interesting Facts About 737NG

Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:42 am

Specifically the 737-600 and the 737-700 are the only B737 models whose span exceeds their length. Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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