travelplus
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Ear Problem

Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:12 am

So I think this could be related to aviation in the sense that I feel my ear is plugged all the time like after a 10 hour flight. I have clicking in both ears,pressure on my eyes,itching,tingling on the skin,neck pain,poping on the roof of my mouth. The dentist said he doubts it's TMJ,the ENT said nothing and vacumed out my ears and gave me antihisitmines wich did not help.

What is your take? Is it a sinus infection? I tried Sudafed with no help. Any other persrciptions other than Flonase,Rhinochort,Allegra or Claritin? I know your not doctors but maybe a pilot might know or someone who has experienced the symptoms.

I hope it's not serious because I have white skin coming out of my ears and it itches. I drink coffee but I am not sure if that causes it. I get some roraing at times. And my thyroid seems swollen. I have a bad taste in my mouth at times.

Please help Smile. Any opinions are most welcome. I am soo agrivated I sometimes loose sleep. Should I go to a neurologist for this?
 
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RE: Ear Problem

Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:13 am

BTW I tried the vlasalva manuever without help. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Could someone expalin the best way to do it? When I swallow my ears click and sometimes they click automatically when my mouth is closed.

Do I stand up when I do the valsalva manuever? Thanks.
 
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RE: Ear Problem

Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:06 am

If you can taste it in your mouth it sounds like sinus or eustachian tube infection. Get it checked out, get a second opinion. Certainly it is not normal.

I would caution against valsalval-ing too hard. You can cause yourself a lot of pain and maybe damage. And, no, I would sit down. Almost fell down once doing that!  Wow!

Don't know what part of the country you live in, but if this gets serious I would recommend the clinic at the House Ear Institute in LA. They are far and away better than any of the other places I went to during the twelve year evolution of my own ear problems. And that includes some big-name hospitals.

http://www.hei.org/

Good luck with this.

[Edited 2005-01-03 01:09:12]
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RE: Ear Problem

Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:33 am

Thanks

Im rushing to make an appointment with my Dr. It's aggrivating
 
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RE: Ear Problem

Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:03 pm

Do you have a lot of wax build up after a long flight? I dont' have great ears and this is common for me if I haven't flown in a while. The first couple flights after a hiatus of more than a couple weeks usually means I'm not doing a lot of altitude changes and emergency decents because of the discomfort. I used to get a lot of infections too.

My ear nose and throat specialist recommended cleaning my ears with a couple drops of hydrogen peroxide. I put a couple drops in and let it stand for a couple minutes with my head tilted. It breaks all the gunk up. I pack my ear with some cotton and repeat on the other side. I do this right before I go to bed and I usually wake up with a mess on my pillow because the cotton falls out. It does the trick though. I do this about once every week to ten days and my ears have been problem free for about three years. It gets any water out too so it took care of the infections.

PS: The only thing more dangerous than an armchair CEO or pilot is an armchair doctor  Big thumbs up It's good that you're going to see the real deal. Keep us posted.
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RE: Ear Problem

Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:15 pm

A problem I sometimes get is liquid behind the eardrum (not wax). It doesn't necessarily show up in a normal ear inspection. I'd recommend seeing a specialist about it. Worst case scenario is an operation to place a grommit in the ear drum.

Geoff M.
 
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RE: Ear Problem

Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:14 am

Hi,

As others have suggested to you: go see a doctor, a specialist. I've had ear problems myself, i.e., a feeling as if my right ear was permanently clogged up, and very often it's a problem with the Eustachian Tube http://www.slcent.com/eustachian.html, which is the "valve" regulating the pressure. There is a gizmo that massages your ear drum *don't-laugh* which is basically a headset that pumps air into your ear at a certain frequency. This helped me a lot.

Nick
 
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RE: Ear Problem

Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:33 am

I dont fly alot maybe 10 flights a year max and my ears pop a good amount. But do pilots get used to the pressure after a while.

I also noticed having a tingling feeling on my last flight. It was a red eye MIA-EZE. It was a little wierd.
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RE: Ear Problem

Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:38 am

Just as an FYI, Alan Shepard had ear problems and it caused him to get disoriented and vomit from time to time. It's the reason he didn't take his second spaceflight for another 9 years or so after his first. He had to have (then-experimental) surgery to correct it.
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RE: Ear Problem

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:04 am

Flymia:

I just started flying C172s, and I can tell you I got used to it.

In my first flight in a C172 (and my first prop flight ever) I started feeling warm and sweating, and I finally puked (first time I puke on a plane too!). Second flight I felt the same without puking, third flight just felt like in a normal airliner.

There are also people that seem to be more sensitive than others. A guy at my campus even puked in one of our sims, and our sims are stationary!

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RE: Ear Problem

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:10 am

N328KF wrote:
"Just as an FYI, Alan Shepard had ear problems and it caused him to get disoriented and vomit from time to time. It's the reason he didn't take his second spaceflight for another 9 years or so after his first. He had to have (then-experimental) surgery to correct it.


Correct. And he went to the House Ear Institute in Los Angeles for this and other treatement. See reply #2 above for the link. He and I were both treated by Dr. Ralph Nelson, since retired. Great clinic!


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RE: Ear Problem

Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:48 pm

"Worst case scenario is an operation to place a grommit in the ear drum."

I used to have this problem often, ear infections at least once a year or two years.
I went to my ENT and told me an easy fix is putting the grommet in the ear drum to balance the pressure....

but something else you can look at...

sometimes this problem is caused by improper drainage of the eustachian tube into the sinus/nostril (or something so).
I had this problem on the left, and had an operation known as SMR (sum mucous resection) done. they basically widened my left nostril on the inside causing the eustachian tube to drain properly, and now I don't have any clogging on the left.

it's the permanent alternative to the grommets.

http://www.surgerydoor.co.uk/so/detail2.asp?level2=Submucous%20Resection%20-%20SMR
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RE: Ear Problem

Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:01 pm

Inbound, that's an interesting alternative that wasn't mentioned to me. It's something that bugs me every now and again, but my problem is more doing scuba diving than in planes. The grommet option is "worst case" for me since it would then rule out scuba diving apparently.

Geoff M.

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