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Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:37 pm


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What's the use of that black area infront of the cockpit window?
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:38 pm

Protects against sun glare. Nowadays there's a special type of paint that takes care of this problem so the black isn't really needed anymore.
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:38 pm

i'm pretty sure it's to stop the glare or reflecting light into the pilots eyes, Air India have them on the 747's also. perhaps someone else can confirm?
 
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:39 pm

I assume it is the same idea as the athletes wearing the black paint under their eyes?

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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:42 pm

Bingo.
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:19 pm

The old Air Canada (late '70's to mid '80's+) 747's had a huge painted black spot under the cockpit window, for that reason.
 
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:35 pm

If you want a scientific explanation, great! LLike said before, new paint solves this problem. You will notice this kind of paint on classics such as the 707,DC-8
,and 727's, along with a lot of others. This black paint absorbs all the colors of the visible spectrum, therefore majorly decreasing the glare upon the pilot's eyes. (already said above, but in fewer words! Smile)
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 3:41 pm

If new paint solved this problem, then why does AirTran's new scheme have a prominent black area in front of the cockpit? While I'm in agreeance with the what it is for, I'm wondering what AirTran's decision was to keep it - too cheap to spend on the anti-glare paint or maybe they just like it.  Smile

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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:34 pm

Some of the Cessnas I've flown had it, did a really good job keeping the sun's reflection off the cowling. I've been thinking of painting one on my Ford Mustang!  idea 
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:52 pm

Air-India 747-200s/-300s as well as the A310s have the anti-glare.


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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:56 pm



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
I assume it is the same idea as the athletes wearing the black paint under their eyes?

I don't believe the plane does it in order to look ferocious and intimidate her competition  Wink

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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:56 pm



Quoting INTENSS (Reply 7):
If new paint solved this problem, then why does AirTran's new scheme have a prominent black area in front of the cockpit?

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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:03 am

I read an article in a commercial aviation magazine (I think it was "Airways" but am not sure which magazine) that the black paint under the cockpit windows was unnecessary. WN has it there because of tradition.

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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:56 am



Quoting AAFLT192 (Reply 5):
The old Air Canada (late '70's to mid '80's+) 747's had a huge painted black spot under the cockpit window, for that reason.

That's the one which jumped to mind as the quintessential example


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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:13 am



Quoting Airsicknessbag (Reply 10):
I don't believe the plane does it in order to look ferocious and intimidate her competition

You never know...  Wink


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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:43 am

The ultimate anti-glare:


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Reminds me of the old people driving their Mercurys with the huge wrap-around sunglasses.  eyepopping 

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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:46 am

Ugly !!! Isn't it ???
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:24 am

looks like the space shuttle Wink
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:26 am

The anti-glare panel has been fairly common on military aircraft since:

World War II

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I think it helps make this is one of the best looking GII paint schemes out there.

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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:56 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 1):
Nowadays there's a special type of paint that takes care of this problem so the black isn't really needed anymore.

How does a coloured or Non dark colour help reduce reflection of sunlight.
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:42 am

Hi Hawk,

this is achieved by a special surface finish. You can see the diffrence on the pictures below:

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You can see the different paint in front of the cockpit windows.
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:34 pm

The Difference is noticable in the Pics.Thanks.
But What makes the paint less reflective especially paints of Different colours without it being visabally different.
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RE: Black Area Infront Of The Cockpit Window

Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:53 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
I assume it is the same idea as the athletes wearing the black paint under their eyes?

Quite true, not sure how effective it is though.
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