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Front Window On An Airliner?

Wed May 04, 2005 4:51 am

I was wondering if it would be possible to install a front window on the A380 or 747 for the passengers to look out. Since they have two decks, could a window not be placed on the deck which doesn't have the cockpit so that the passengers could have a great view?

Just a thought.

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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Wed May 04, 2005 5:41 am

There is a weather radar dish in the way on the 747, so no to that one. The space is probably otherwise employed on the A380 too.
A better idea is to install cameras accessible on PTV's. you could have several different views and their wouldn't be a problem of a gathering crowd. Of course if you want a good view inflight, the best way to get it is to fly the plane yourself!
 
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Wed May 04, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 1):
A better idea is to install cameras accessible on PTV's.

Some Airbus aircraft already have this feature, it's pretty cool to see the runway at landing and take off.

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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Wed May 04, 2005 10:06 am

Not just Airbus. For example, JAL and ANA have had such cameras on their 747's for years, probably on other types with IFE too. The camera is usually mounted on the nose gear. It does make takeoff, landing and taxiing much more interesting.
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Wed May 04, 2005 6:01 pm

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 1):
A better idea is to install cameras accessible on PTV's

That would be more better,so no rush to the window.Seated in the Seat Entertainment.
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Wed May 04, 2005 6:25 pm

Wouldn't be a rush to the window anyway as the front section of most aircraft is business- or first class and people in cattle class aren't allowed to go there.
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Wed May 04, 2005 11:54 pm

The problem with the nose gear camera though is that when the gear retracts you cant see anything so I would have thought some dome on the bottom so u can see so you can see under the plane instead of the boring out the side
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Thu May 05, 2005 12:06 am

The tail camera would still work.
 
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Thu May 05, 2005 1:44 am

Emirates have cameras pointing down and forward - not on the nose gear. Both are viewable at any time - including while they're still loading/unloading the plane! On the A330s and B777s at least, if not other crafts.

Some have tail mount cameras which actually look pretty good as you can see most of the plane in the picture too!

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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Thu May 05, 2005 8:25 am

The window would be expensive to install and maintain and would probably make some passengers sick.
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Thu May 05, 2005 10:28 am

If they are taking out tiny eyebrow windows because of maintenance costs, do you think anyone would want a large front window? Highly unlikely anyone would get it even if they offered it.

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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Thu May 05, 2005 6:26 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 10):
Highly unlikely anyone would get it even if they offered it.

How about Emirates  Smile $$$$$
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Fri May 06, 2005 6:53 pm

Considering the amount of bug-splatter we have to wash off the cockpit windows every day I can't imagine an airline would want to put a window up front with the added maintenance cost of keeping it clean. Then add in the structural problems of protecting against bird strikes, lightning strikes etc, and the window would end up being so thick you'd never see anything out of it anyway. I think the cameras are a better idea for the majority of passengers too. Anyone more than a couple rows away from a window like that wouldn't be able to see much of anything.

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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Mon May 09, 2005 10:37 am

Some of the smaller Soviet airliners had a front window on them. I was amazed the first time I saw one at Helsinki in 1999 (can't remember the type). Don't know if was for navigation or for intelligence gathering, but I doubt that it was for the passenger's viewing pleasure.
 
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Mon May 09, 2005 10:54 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
How about Emirates $$$$$

Let me rephrase. No one who cares about how much money they spend would buy the option.  Wink

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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Mon May 09, 2005 12:22 pm

I'm all for PTVs that show the front view camera, I'm not sure how pilots think as they would be further judged on their landing. I have had many landings with those crazy WN pilots where I wish I had an instant replay just to see what happened.
 
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RE: Front Window On An Airliner?

Mon May 09, 2005 2:02 pm

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 15):
I'm all for PTVs that show the front view camera

Maybe a Tail mounted Camera would provide a better & More Interesting view.
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