tarzanboy
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B777 Job

Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:10 am

hi

guys, do you think a guy with 300 total hours and a B777-300 Type Rating has potential for a B777 First Officer job?
 
doug_or
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RE: B777 Job

Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:28 am

here's a thread from exactly one month ago you mgiht be familiar with that covers it

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/tech_ops/read.main/118191/6/
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pilotpip
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RE: B777 Job

Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:51 am

In sum, no.

There are guys out there with 777 line experience and thousands of hours that are probably looking for a job. Typically, this is an industry where you start small and work your way up in terms of flying. In the US, pilots hired by most regional companies have about 1-2000 hours when hired on for the right seat of an RJ.
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B744F
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RE: B777 Job

Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:45 am

Wow you can even buy a triple 7 type rating without at least a thousand hours??? That can be dangerous!

[Edited 2005-06-16 01:46:19]
 
soaringadi
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RE: B777 Job

Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:48 pm

I dont know about the U.S., but I had a friend of mine get hired at Eva air with 300 something hours as a Second officer on a 74. His logbook is the funniest part of the story.

It went something like....

250 hrs. C-152
78 hrs. - Be 76.... a Beechcraft Duchess
xx hrs. - Boeing 747

So the answer is yes it can happen.
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Dalmd88
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RE: B777 Job

Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:08 pm

A friend of my who is also a Brit got hired by Cathay and went to the 747 as a relief pilot and then to the 777. I think he had more than 1000 hrs when he was hire. In the US it would be doubtful this would happen. most new hires start in the smallest and least payed aircraft the airline flys. I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.
 
CX Flyboy
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RE: B777 Job

Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:42 pm

Cadets from Asian airlines quite often graduate with a few hunder hours and then become cruise pilots on widebody aircraft simply because there are no narrow bodies for them to fly. Some of them even become first officers of widebodied aircraft after graduating. Some of these airlines are also considered the safest in the world.
 
flykal
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RE: B777 Job

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:49 pm

I would think it highly unlikely that "the guy" would walk into an B777 F/O job with the time he currently has. Direct entry usually requires 1000+ hours of airline time. As mentioned previously, cadet schemes work differently, but I don't think "the guy" would be considered a cadet with a B777 rating.
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TBA04
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RE: B777 Job

Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:49 pm

Where can you do a 777 type rating? are there any minimum requirements?
 
CX Flyboy
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RE: B777 Job

Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:36 am

Dragonair has cadets graduate with 250 hours and go onto the Airbus....which I assume they then fly.
 
flykal
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RE: B777 Job

Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:08 am

Cadets at KE must enter the cadet programme with a minimum number of hours (less than 100 I believe and no more than a PPL), otherwise they are not considered cadets.

Once a cadet has finished their training in the US, they return to Korea with 250 or so hours, head to Cheju for a citation rating, and then are assigned to train on either the B737, A300 or A330.

I would imagine it depends a lot on the country and airline so there will be large variances in requirements, etc.

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flymia
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RE: B777 Job

Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:20 am

Wow Getting a job outside of the US seems a lot easier. I sure the test and ratings and training is just as hard to do or even harder but less than 2,000TT and being a cruise pilot on a 777 or any wide body! That is amazing. How long will a cruise pilot stay as a cruise pilot until he upgrades to FO?

Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 5):
I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.

that's also an awesome plane to fly for DL. One day you are doing MIA-ATL JAX-ATL and the next day you are flying ATL-EZE or CVG-LGW!  Smile
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vs773er
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RE: B777 Job

Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:27 pm

Hat about 128 hours on x-plane?
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PIA747
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RE: B777 Job

Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:48 am

Try Etihad in Abu Dhabi, they are very actively recruiting 777 rated pilots. YOu stand a very good chance in the Sand Pit.
 
DeltaGuy
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RE: B777 Job

Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:45 am

Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 5):
I know at DL sometimes the 767 actually bids very junior.

I've seen it with 4-5 yrs seniority. My dad has 6 in right now and will probably get it on this next bid. Doesn't take too much, at least for the right seat.

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N77014
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RE: B777 Job

Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:03 am

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 11):
Wow Getting a job outside of the US seems a lot easier. I sure the test and ratings and training is just as hard to do or even harder but less than 2,000TT and being a cruise pilot on a 777 or any wide body! That is amazing. How long will a cruise pilot stay as a cruise pilot until he upgrades to FO?

This has more to do with the 'seniority system' at US air carriers than the ability to fly a plane. Yes, experience is a key factor in safety, but how much safer is a 2000 tt than a 20 000 tt pilot?
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