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C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:29 pm

I was just browsing the top 24 hour photos and saw this one:


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I did a search and couldn't see anything related to this.

What is the purpose of the lower window (that you can see the pilots feet through) being placed where it is? It strikes me as a rather useless place for any sort of window on a military transport.

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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:40 pm

As a taxi-ing aid as on the C-130
 
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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:47 pm

I agree on the taxiing aid. This pic shows the window from inside the flight deck:
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It might also be useful for low-level flying so you can see what is below you such as for cargo drops.
 
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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:54 pm

Thanks for the quick responses - its bloody obvious when it is explained!
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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:08 pm

Looks Like a Window for Viewing Lower areas in Flight & for Taxing Aid on Grd.
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Check the IL76/78.Although not directly connected to the Cockpit.
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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:51 pm

When I was in Iraq, this plane type visited Mosul airfield often and the crew let us in. The nose section of that IL-76 is like an apartment.. or a frathouse! The Russian crew had all sorts of ammenities, it looked very cosy in there below the flight deck! HUGE.
 
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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:27 pm

Quoting MD11Fanatic (Reply 5):
The nose section of that IL-76 is like an apartment.. or a frathouse! The Russian crew had all sorts of ammenities, it looked very cosy in there below the flight deck! HUGE.

Got this Old thread back........

Its true the Russian Aircraft were built at that time for a dual military use too,hence the number of Windows.
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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:45 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 6):
Its true the Russian Aircraft were built at that time for a dual military use too,hence the number of Windows.
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With the IL-76 in particular (and most of the others, I'm sure), the windows below the cockpit are for the navigator's station - the lack of decent navaid coverage in most parts of Russia at the time these aircraft were designed (well before the advent of GPS, and in the infancy of INS/IRU systems in the West - not sure when that technology developed in Russia) lead them to want to give the nav as good of a view as possible.

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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:33 am

I think you guys are missing the obvious. This is a military aircraft where early detection of an enemy aircraft may mean life for the crew of a cargo aircraft. More windows = more opportunity to see the enemy.

Sure, it may help during taxi, but I'm sure these are aircraft are no more difficult to taxi thaan a B747, and no such windows exist. I suspect a military purpose.
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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:35 am

I think it has alot to do with making air drops, especially the low altitude ones. Imagine trying to peer over the glareshield to find the dirt strip where you're going to drop your load. The C-130 admittedly has alot more windows to it, but then again they're smaller ones.

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RE: C17A - What Is The Purpose Of This Window?

Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:23 am

I told you the IL-76 was like a frat house below the flight deck. Very spacious and comfy and easily "pimped" to make it a sweet ride and a decent place to live out of.

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