gg190
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2 Man Cockpits

Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:15 pm

Which was the first jet or turboprop airliner to introduce the 2 man cockpit?

Also didn'y some props like the DC-3 and Vickers Viking have 2 man cockpits?
 
VirginFlyer
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:29 pm

To my knowledge, some of the earliest would be the Vickers Viscount Model 724, which introduced a two man cockpit to that family, and the BAC-111, which I am pretty sure had a two man flight deck right from the get go (and was in the air before either the DC-9 or 737).

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JDD1
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:42 pm

The Vickers Viscount had a two-crew cockpit. (The first civil turbo-prop)
The DC-9 was the twin-engined jet airliner to have a two-crew cockpit.
The A300-B4 FFCC was the first widebody jet airliner with a two-crew cockpit.
The 747-400 is also two-crew.
 
patrickj
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:20 am

Ford Tri Motor had a two man cockpit and flew before the DC-3.

Consolidated Commodore and the Sikorsky S-40 Flying Boats were two man as well
 
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:17 am

Quoting JDD1 (Reply 2):
The DC-9 was the twin-engined jet airliner to have a two-crew cockpit.

I think the BAC One-Eleven beat the DC9 into the air.
 
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:06 pm

The correct terminology is two-crew cockpit - let's not be sexist ... There are women pilots, in case you guys haven't noticed  Smile JOD1 you got it right!
 
JDD1
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:21 pm

How could I possibly have forgotten the BAC1-11. I hang my head in shame.
VC-10 Thanks for the correction.
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:36 am

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 5):
The correct terminology is two-crew cockpit

Well if you really want to be technical, it would be "two-crewmember cockpit". There is only one crew.  Wink
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andz
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:35 am

Oh give the politically correct crap a rest....2 man is perfectly fine, it obviously refers to man as homo sapien and not as a specific gender.
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RE: 2 Man Cockpits

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:58 am

Actually, some of the airplanes listed here (namely the Sikorsky and Douglas DC-3) may have had some three man configurations due to the need for nav/com radios. Remember in the early days the radios were not user friendly and not always set up for the Captain or First Officer to transmit as they are today. I believe the C-47 flew with a radio operator. On the DC-4, -6 and -7 radio duties fell to the FE.
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