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Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:12 am

I'm sorry if this sickens anyone (sorry, not my intention.) The other day when I picked up my toddler from daycare services, the provider told me that my daughter was contaminated with lice, probably from one of the other 30 or so kids. I eventually exterminate the bug using a particular shampoo cleaner and fine comb, a lot of hard painstaking work, and patience.

That brought me to the thought of how airlines deal with such situations. How thorough are the cleanings between flights? Are we always safe from catching someone else’s germs and bugs? Is there something that my daughter and I could do/wear to protect us from an infestation?

Any shared thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:13 am

They don't. Try smelling where peoples' heads have been. It doesn't matter if there isn't a dirt or oil stain. Even the clean-looking areas smell smeggy.

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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:02 am

Yup, take a close look at an aircraft carpet sometime...pretty nasty stuff. Ease of cleaning is one reason airlines went to leather seats.
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:11 pm

Interior cleaning is done on a Daily basis after the last Flt of the day out here.Carried out by a team of Proffessionally trained Aircraft Interior Cleaning specialists  Smile
And Pesticide spraying on a random basis.
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Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:40 am

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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:14 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
Proffessionally trained Aircraft Interior Cleaning specialists

Hey! I'm one of them! Only I deal with Cessna Citation X's and King Air's, not quite as big, but we clean the interior and exterior of both birds. Whoever decided to paint King Air's White... I'd like a word with them.

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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:45 am

This is why I would rather live in the fuel tank than the cabin. Thousands of people every day carry every damn disease and germ known to man, in the cabin. It makes me cringe to work in there. Give me fuel tanks any day. At least I know that nobody ever puked, bled, crapped their pants, or died in there.
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:37 pm

I have a couple of stories relating to this.

One 757 or 767 (I can't remember which it was) had a cat on the loose inside.
Tech tried to catch the cat in maintenance by placing traps and opening all accessible area's, even at one point chasing the cat. Never found it again after chasing it, must have took a nap.
Unsuccessful in the first attempt.

A few weeks later the same plane was back and taken in for maintenance, they chased the cat again, then gave up. Went on a lunch break, a few tech's sitting near the a/c while eating lunch saw the cat walk off the plane and away!
That cat sure got a lot of free frequent flyer miles.


Second one, this one is from a aircraft with Buddhists or some real into religion people came to HPN, their plane was loaded with fruits and food. The people left, plane was inspected and had cockroaches and bugs in it.
The religious people came back and took off in the plane, everyone who knows that plane waved bye bye because they knew the bugs will soon eat into the wires.


And this one was mentioned here on the forums before, a Delta aircraft had mice problems and they were unable to get rid of it.
Until the ferry flight (for maintenance or repositioning flight) the pilots requested high altitude flight. They left the cabin pressure off and the outflow valve full open and donned the oxygen masks and climbed. Stayed at high alt. for a while.
When they landed, they no longer hear mice squeaking.
 
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:56 pm

Quoting 777WT (Reply 7):

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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:44 pm

we fumigate on a regular basis and the best people we found do a local chain of top class hotels (so we know the stuff they use is health board etc approved) Big problem is cockroaches, the get uploaded from all sorts of places. We regularly apply gell/smoke etc to kill them but oce they get in its hard to get rid of them.
We do the daily clean etc as well but its very superfical and the best the cleaners can do on a quick turn around.
As mentioned, cabins are dirty places
 
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:27 am

Quoting Fokker Lover (Reply 6):
This is why I would rather live in the fuel tank than the cabin. Thousands of people every day carry every damn disease and germ known to man, in the cabin. It makes me cringe to work in there. Give me fuel tanks any day. At least I know that nobody ever puked, bled, crapped their pants, or died in there.

While I don't find bugs that nice either, if we weren't exposed to disease agents on a regular basis we would lose all our "natural" resistance. This is cited by many allergy experts as the reason more kids have allergies these days. Houses are too clean! So I try not to worry too much. A little bit of dirt can actually be good for you  Wink
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:20 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 10):
While I don't find bugs that nice either, if we weren't exposed to disease agents on a regular basis we would lose all our "natural" resistance. This is cited by many allergy experts as the reason more kids have allergies these days. Houses are too clean! So I try not to worry too much. A little bit of dirt can actually be good for you

I'm with Fokker Lover on this one. When you have seen the sort of stuff we have seen you get the creeps thinking about what you might be exposed to. It's one thing to be exposed to the flu or a cold. It's something entirely different to be exposed to things like hepatitis A and god knows what else.
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:22 am

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 11):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 10):
While I don't find bugs that nice either, if we weren't exposed to disease agents on a regular basis we would lose all our "natural" resistance. This is cited by many allergy experts as the reason more kids have allergies these days. Houses are too clean! So I try not to worry too much. A little bit of dirt can actually be good for you

I'm with Fokker Lover on this one. When you have seen the sort of stuff we have seen you get the creeps thinking about what you might be exposed to. It's one thing to be exposed to the flu or a cold. It's something entirely different to be exposed to things like hepatitis A and god knows what else.

Point taken. Our house and our car are very clean, and I appreciate that planes can be beyond gross. I'm just saying that expecting a spotless environment is, perhaps, expecting too much.
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:29 am

Quoting 777WT (Reply 7):
And this one was mentioned here on the forums before, a Delta aircraft had mice problems and they were unable to get rid of it.
Until the ferry flight (for maintenance or repositioning flight) the pilots requested high altitude flight. They left the cabin pressure off and the outflow valve full open and donned the oxygen masks and climbed. Stayed at high alt. for a while.
When they landed, they no longer hear mice squeaking.

This is not the smartest way to get rid of mice. If they died in the cabin, as they decomposed they would give off a very foul order.

One time when I was working at the airport, we had a foul order in the office area. We ripped down the paneling and sheetrock in the area where the odor was the worst and found a single dead mouse in the wall.

The best way to remove mice is by using a chemical that when the mice eat it, they get very thirsty and head outdoors looking for water before they die. I think the name is Decon, this way they die outdoors.
 
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:20 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 12):
Point taken. Our house and our car are very clean, and I appreciate that planes can be beyond gross. I'm just saying that expecting a spotless environment is, perhaps, expecting too much.

I perfectly understand the point you were trying to make. Hope there was no misunderstanding.  Smile
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:46 am

We recently had a 737-800 with a mouse problem and called in the exterminators. The plane sat on the pad for two days and using glue boards they caught 15 mice.

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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:56 pm

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 15):
glue boards

Any Pictures.What are they exactly.
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RE: Interior Cleaning Of Pests

Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:12 pm

Something like this:

A board with glue on one side. Makes things (and animals) stick to the board.
You can always google the expression "Glue boards" for further information.

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