nycfly75
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Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:28 am

Hello--I am new to the forums and I would like tro kindly ask for other members' help and advice concerning commercial pilot training. I am 29 year old corporate consultant, but my real passion and calling is to be a commercial pilot. I know there are many flight schools out there, but would like some input from members on here. Since i live in New York (near KJFK) I would like to attend a local school but would be willing to attend an out of state school if that is the best route. Thanks in advance for you help and time.

Vin
 
727EMflyer
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RE: Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:50 am

Do you have a Private Cert yet? Start there at your local flight school or an FBO that offers flight instruction. Visit www.beapilot.com and get the $49 intro flight certificate. Join Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association www.aopa.org. I recommend staying away from a 141 school for the private because you'll wind up flying about the same number of hours but you'll pay a heck of a lot less under part 61.

I too would love to be an airline pilot, but honestly, for someone our age (I'm 28 and well embedded in my career) it might not be the best thing to dive into head first. Get your feet wet with a Pivate Pilot Certificate, see what you do and don't like about flying and flight training, and see if you still feel the same way. Maybe it will satisfy you to be a weekend flyer....

I warn you off because it is a huge expense in exchange for not much compensation if you head off to one of the big name "airline training schools." The ads I see all the time quote prices around $35k for the fast track programs (where you can't really work on the side) while the regional airlines advertise starting salaries around $20k per year (assuming you can get hired).

Get your cert and have some fun. Make sure you will keep having fun. Get your finances in order. Look with scrutiny at the big, well respected schools to see who offers the training product that matches your needs and wants (its probably going to be in florida!). Then get moving on with the dream.
 
nycfly75
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RE: Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:48 am

Thanks for your response..I actually joined AOPA already. In terms of finances, I have been preparing and am financially able and ready to commit to commercial pilot training full time...I know the schools in Florida will probably be the better choice but I would like to keep all options open.
 
HaveBlue
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RE: Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:04 pm

I'm not going to offer much advice except to say I went Part 141 and I am happy I did. I was 30 and thinking about changing careers also, but a month into my flight training 9/11 happened and the future looked bleak for airline pilots for a while. As I'm not rich, it would have taken considerable loans to get the 40k worth of training to be hireable, and I wasn't willing to take the gamble. I am a weekend pilot in FL, and loving every minute of it.

Good luck with whichever you chose. And though I live 5 minutes away from the worlds biggest air university, ERAU in DAB, others can better advise you on which school to chose. I do however echo 727's advice on getting the PPL locally first, and then see what you think after that point.
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AirWillie6475
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RE: Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:08 pm

Regarding your age, your not too old to start training to become a pilot if you want to fly for the major airlines, but you might be losing some airline seniority in exchange. You can make a career out of the regionals, their pay gets better after about 5 years with them, or so I've heard. Corporate flying is also a better possibility.

Don't do anything without earning your PPL. After you finish that then you should probalby go into pro-flight schools since you don't want to waste too much time being a CFI without connections. Try ATP flight schools (allatp.com) The have connections with PSA and ExpressJet. They don't promise BS, plus they have a flat rate training cost. I've also heard thay have a very good saftey record and good maintenance. Atleast here in California.
 
nycfly75
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RE: Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:46 pm

Thank you all again for the great advice. Im going to go for my PPL in the early fall probably out at Republic Airport on Long Island. I believe they have a number of flight schools there. Please all continue to share your advice and opinions because choosing a pro flioght school is going to be a major step.

Thanks,

Vin
 
modesto2
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RE: Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:37 am

Hi Nycfly75, glad you're taking the plunge to pursue your passion in life. I'm currently a student at Airline Transport Professionals (www.atpflightschool.com) and loving it! I just graduated from college but am still in a hurry to get it done in a timely, efficient and effective manner. I started with 0 hours and signed up for ATP's Private Pilot Program and their Airline Career Pilot Program. With the Private Program, I earned my license in just 38 days and completed the program with 85 hours in 45 days. Now, I'm in the middle of my Airline Career Program and just earned my multi-engine rating. I'll go from 0 hours to about 225 hours in just 5 months. The training is hectic and requires a lot of self-study and discipline. However, if you're dedicated, this program will do you wonders. It really is the fastest way to an airline career. ATP doesn't take your money; instead, the quoted price is the final price. I enjoy the part 61 environment. I've heard stories of some other schools spending a full week on radio communications. Who needs that??? Check out the website and feel free to message me if you have more questions. There are lots of people doing career changes at ATP, and I've met folks who are 35, 36, 37, 38 and even 46 years old. You still have time - make an informed decision and get your aviation career into first gear! Good luck.
 
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RE: Looking For Advice/help With Pilot Training

Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:57 am

Ask yourself if its worth it. I think its well worth the debt I am in, but some would say not. Make flying your life, thats all I can tell you. It has to come first if you want to make a career of it.
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