KevinL1011
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UAL 1011's?

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:10 pm

I recently came across a photo of a UAL L-1011-500. I've been a fan of the 1011 quite some time and never knew UAL flew them. Were they lease ships? Or due to aquisition of another carrier? Anyone know how many 1011's were in UAL's fleet?
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:34 pm

I believe they were acquired when UAL purchased Pan Am's pacific routes.

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RE: UAL 1011's?

Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:55 pm

Thanks John. Any idea how many and did they dump them quickly in favor of DC-10's?
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:57 pm

They got six from PanAm in 1985.

Only lasted approx. one year in the DC10 dominated UA.
 
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:20 pm

Hi Kevin1011, Buzz here. When UAL bought Pan Am's Pacific system we also got some airplanes in the deal... some 747SP's and L-1011's and a DC-10-30.
The 747's went through our Heavy Check line for some much -needed attention. I don't know much about that ex-National DC-10-30. And we had half a dozen L-1011-500's. Haeco in HKG did most of the maint. on them, once in a while we'd do an A check. Not many mechanics went to school for them, i only worked them a couple times.
I hear that Delta and LTU bought 'em. Delta had one they called "The Tri-Tanic".

Back then we needed wide-body aircraft to operate the Pacific routes, anything will do. Thus the mixed up fleet. As we bought more used 747's (like the 747-123 "Lemon Sisters") we sold the L-1011's. We didn't have many parts for 'em.

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RE: UAL 1011's?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:38 am

I almost crashed in one in the mid 80s. It took off from Denver Intl, and right after takeoff the headwind was so strong the airplane barely was moving forward. A person in the seat across was a pilot and said he'd never seen that before and was not sure how we survived.
 
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:32 am

Thanks Guys! Great info Buzz. I really appreciate the detail! It blew me away when I saw the photo.
Also saw some great posts from CAL Pilot, B744F and BoeingFixer during the Jet Blue non-event. That was a nice grease job.

Hey Buzz..."Tri Tanic"? That's funny! Where did that originate?
Again...thanks for the posts!
Kevin
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:40 am

Every airline has nicknames for airplanes in their fleet. Most of these are made up by mechanics.

I.E. Over by us, we call



B777- Bigfoot.
A319/320 - Fi-Fi
DC-10 - deaths coming

Just to name a few. There are a lot more.

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RE: UAL 1011's?

Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:52 am

Hey B777-Bigfoot! That would be an interesting thread.... Post your favorite aircraft nickname!
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:03 am

I would like to hear the stories about "tritanic" and the "lemon sisters!"

Quoting B744F (Reply 5):
the headwind was so strong the airplane barely was moving forward. A person in the seat across was a pilot and said he'd never seen that before and was not sure how we survived.

That sounds quite preposterous! Especially the pilot part! Gee, if the wind is stronger than the T/O or climb-power thrust it is surely enough to keep the airplane aloft and under control. If that actually happened you were in no danger at all! Shame on the pilot next to you not being sure how you survived. I've heard of zero ground speed happening in light singles plenty of times before (theres even a thread about it in this forum several months ago) but for a transport category aircraft to fly zero ground speed (outside of a hurricane) is just B.S.
 
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:32 pm


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RE: UAL 1011's?

Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:48 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Whats the Nickname for B737 apart from Baby Boeing

United calls them "Guppy"
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:49 am

Delta bought some of those L15's from UAL. They were ship numbers 759, 760, 761, 762, and 763. I believe Delta took delivery of ship 763 in early 1989.

As for nicknames, these jets where known as PUD's, I think for obvious reasons
 
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:18 am

I don't think UA ever send those TriStar 500s to DEN. I believe they all stayed based in SFO to run OSA/NRT/PEK/SHA/TPE/SEL. They pretty much mirrored the PA routes they they flew (except for South America).
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:17 am

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 9):
I would like to hear the stories about "tritanic" and the "lemon sisters

Ditto here!
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:39 pm

Quoting Buzz (Reply 4):
The 747's went through our Heavy Check line for some much -needed attention.

Off topic but I have to ask... I've heard a few times that PA aircraft were generally worked hard and in bad condition. Care to share any memories of what the main problems were with the 747s?

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RE: UAL 1011's?

Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:42 am

Quoting Johnclipper (Reply 13):
I don't think UA ever send those TriStar 500s to DEN. I believe they all stayed based in SFO to run OSA/NRT/PEK/SHA/TPE/SEL. They pretty much mirrored the PA routes they they flew

In the case of UA807/808; DEN-LAX-NRT-SHA-NRT-LAX-DEN, the trans-Pacific portion was usually a 747 or L10, the LAX-DEN portion a 727.
If the 727 went mechanical, it might have been an equipment substitution for many reasons; maybe over-booked, who knows...
It was never a scheduled visitor to anyplace east of LAX or SFO....I don't even remember SEA getting them?

The one thing that is true though, was the diversity of United's fleet at the time!

Widebodies included the 747, DC-10, L1011 and 767.
Narrowbodies included the 727, 737, 757, and DC-8.
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Quoting B744F (Reply 5):
I almost crashed in one in the mid 80s. It took off from Denver Intl, and right after takeoff the headwind was so strong the airplane barely was moving forward. A person in the seat across was a pilot and said he'd never seen that before and was not sure how we survived.

I would bet he was pulling your leg.
A United L1011 in Denver while true would have been an anomaly for UA pilots...an unfamilar type in unfamilar territory, I will concur there was probably no danger posed to crew and passengers.
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:08 am

The pilots that flew the United L-1011's were Pan Am pilots transferred to United after the route sales, therefore they were familiar with the aircraft. The L-1011's stayed in the Far East until a maintenance check was required, then they were flown to SFO. I don't know if they were ferried or flew a revenue sector.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 16):
 
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 11):
United calls them "Guppy

Everyone else call them 'FLUF"
 
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:56 am

Just spoke to a UA777-747 skipper who said the 1011's were in pretty good shape but the 747-100's were beat. He did not have any info on the "lemon sisters" as stated by "Buzz" in this thread. C'mon Buzz! What's the deal?
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RE: UAL 1011's?

Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:46 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 11):
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Whats the Nickname for B737 apart from Baby Boeing

United calls them "Guppy"

What would the Guppy be called then  Smile
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