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Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:11 pm

Hi,

This is not really a technical question - but I'm posting here, rather than on "civil" as I wanted replies/comments from actual pilots and people with real world experience.

My question is simple:-
Do insects (spiders / wasps etc) ever get onto the flight deck? What happens? I can't imagine both captain and first Officer frantically scrambling around with a newspaper trying to swat it - especially during a critical phase like landing.
I would imagine that a wasp on the flight deck could be quite distracting - yet I can't recall any serious incidences happening because of this.

Your views / experiences / comments would be appreciated.
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 8:06 pm

I'm guessing they get onto airliners occasionally. Just a week ago I was taxiing my C-172 from the runup area to the hold line, and an enormous moth popped itself onto the windscreen. My flight instructor tried to shoo it out the window (which had been closed per the runup check) but couldn't get a hold of it. Finally, we decided to try to ignore it, but it was very difficult. Just seconds before I got clearance to take off, I managed to grab it with my left hand, open my window with my right, and dump it.
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:42 pm

The rapidity of air changes on the flight deck would make life difficult for any flying insect. My guess, they either get sucked out or trapped on the grille rather quickly.
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:02 pm

Quoting SATL382G (Reply 2):
The rapidity of air changes on the flight deck would make life difficult for any flying insect. My guess, they either get sucked out or trapped on the grille rather quickly.

Here's my skydiving experience. At around 2000 feet all no-see-ums ("knott" in Swedish) decide to die. They used to swarm around the cabin and suddenly all drop dead. And what a relief!

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Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:18 pm

Out here.
The Freighters departing BLR have a lot of Mosquitoes at times.So a Mosquito repellant is sprayed regularily.
Its quite an irritant when the Pilots feet are bitten by these creatures in a closed Enclosure at night.
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:45 pm

Can't say I've ever had one in a jet. In a small plane, I've had everything from wasps to spiders. The wasp is pretty easy to deal with a light plane - open the window and the difference in air pressure makes it pretty easy to get the bug out of the window. I had a spider drop down right in front of my face on approach once. Considering I'm deathly afraid of spiders that was interesting, but I was able to swat him with an approach chart. My VOR approach into VRB had an extra feature for a few weeks.

One of our FAs likes to put a fake mouse in the cockpit to see if she can get a rise out of the pilots.
 
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:49 pm

There was a story in Vietnam of a Huey that somehow got a cobra under the cargo deck. That space is made up of a box or grid of thin aluminum vertical joists with lightening holes all through, so it would be possible for a snake to get around under there. It could actually crawl out onto the chin bubbles which is supposedly how they found out it was there. Talk about unwanted!

I've had a roadrunner get inside my C-402 on the ramp at YUM. Took a :45 delay trying to coax it out without it - messing up the interior.  Smile

Had a lobster on the floor on a flight in from San Clemente Island, but it was more of a pet. (until dinner time)

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Only problem I ever had with insects: Took off out of a jungle clearing "down south" and just about the time I cleared the treetops, a wasp the size of a mouse crawled up on the glareshield right in front of my face. Did not want to land again and really did not want to get stung. For all I know a tropical wasp that size could knock you unconscious.

I kept climbing. I had the back windows out of the airplane and I climbed up to where it started getting cold. Pretty soon the wasp stopped crawling around and kind of hunkered in the sunshine. I got the machete out from under my seat (What? You don't fly with a machete under the seat?) and whacked him good with the flat of the blade. Then scooped him up carefully and put him out the window.

Sure didn't want to piss him off.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:18 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 3):
Here's my skydiving experience. At around 2000 feet all no-see-ums ("knott" in Swedish) decide to die. They used to swarm around the cabin and suddenly all drop dead. And what a relief!

They don't drop dead...they pass out for lack of oxygen. When I was doing my glider pilot lisence training, the airfield we worked out of was infested with mosquitoes, and they would get everywhere. Anyhow, once we passed about 1500' AGL, the mosquitoes would suddenly start to drop like flies, for lack of a better way of putting it.

This was great, until you reached the base leg at 600' AGL, and they'd all start to come back to life.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:10 am

Quoting MrChips (Reply 7):
Anyhow, once we passed about 1500' AGL, the mosquitoes would suddenly start to drop like flies, for lack of a better way of putting it.

The US Department of Agriculture used to have a Beech 18 at El Centro Calif. that dropped sterile fruit flies (Little tiny vasectomy scars!) in Mexico as part of the fly eradication program. The flies came a thousand to the box and they often dumped more than a thousand boxes on a flight. They had installed a venturi-driven vacuum cleaner back in the cabin to suck out the few flies that escaped the boxes. Pilots said the flies were pretty lethargic above a couple thousand feet.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:16 am

Quoting MrChips (Reply 7):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 3):
Here's my skydiving experience. At around 2000 feet all no-see-ums ("knott" in Swedish) decide to die. They used to swarm around the cabin and suddenly all drop dead. And what a relief!

They don't drop dead...they pass out for lack of oxygen. When I was doing my glider pilot lisence training, the airfield we worked out of was infested with mosquitoes, and they would get everywhere. Anyhow, once we passed about 1500' AGL, the mosquitoes would suddenly start to drop like flies, for lack of a better way of putting it.

This was great, until you reached the base leg at 600' AGL, and they'd all start to come back to life.

I had no idea they came back to life! Wow! Well, in my defense I never landed with the plane Big grin
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:23 am




Quoting SlamClick (Reply 6):
I got the machete out from under my seat



...And that, ladies and gentlemen, is yet another example of what makes Indiana SlamClick such a badass.







Quoting SlamClick (Reply 6):
That space is made up of a box or grid of thin aluminum vertical joists with lightening holes all through, so it would be possible for a snake to get around under there. It could actually crawl out onto the chin bubbles which is supposedly how they found out it was there.



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NTSB Identification: ATL91LA096 .
The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 44283.
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Monday, May 20, 1991 in ROCK HILL, SC
Probable Cause Approval Date: 12/15/1992
Aircraft: SCHWEIZER 269C, registration: N7507J
Injuries: 1 Serious.




THE COMMERCIAL PILOT WAS FLYING AN AERIAL OBSERVATION FLIGHT. HE TURNED ON THE COCKPIT HEAT. A COPPERHEAD SNAKE EMERGED FROM THE HEAT VENT NEAR HIS FEET. AS THE PILOT MANEUVERED TOWARDS A LANDING AREA, THE SNAKE APPEARED POISED TO STRIKE. HE TRIED TO STEP ON THE SNAKE WITH HIS FOOT AND SUBSEQUENTLY LOST CONTROL OF THE HELICOPTER. THE HELICOPTER CONTACTED TREES AND TERRAIN AND WAS DESTROYED. THE SNAKE WAS NOT FOUND AFTER THE ACCIDENT. DRUG, ALCOHOL, AND SNAKE VENOM TESTING ON THE PILOT WAS NEGATIVE.

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

THE PILOT DIVERTED HIS ATTENTION TO A POISONOUS SNAKE IN THE COCKPIT AND FAILED TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT.

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...He diverts his attention for a little venomous snake...what a wuss.  sarcastic 


Perhaps if he had rembered his machete, none of this would have happened.  Wink




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Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:55 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Perhaps if he had rembered his machete

Don't leave home without it!  Smile
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:20 am

I would love to put a machete in my flight kit and watch the look on the TSA x-ray tech's face....

"oh, sorry.... that's my nail clipper."
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:23 am




Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 12):
I would love to put a machete in my flight kit and watch the look on the TSA x-ray tech's face....



I've often wondered how travelling cutlery sales reps get along these days...




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Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:30 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 13):
I've often wondered how travelling cutlery sales reps get along these days...

Oh, 'bout the same as I did trying to bring an "ulu" back from Fairbanks. Seems the screeners there recognize this knife's distinctive shape. They must see a lot of them.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:44 am




Reminds me of Jerry Seinfeld's bit on airport security:

I always look in the TV set; I cannot make out one object. I dont know what this guy is doing...he's going, "Whats that, a hair dryer with a scope on it? That looks ok, keep it moving. Some kind of bowling ball candle? Thats fine, we dont want to hold up the line".




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Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:46 am

I remember a story involving a Short Skyvan in Papua New Guinea from an issue of the Australian Aviation Safety Digest from about 35 years ago. I don't have it any more as I donated my collection of the Digest to a museum, but the story was on the back page and was a discussion of an Incident Report which IIRC went something like this:

" Upon entering the cockpit prior to flight I noticed that there was a 3-foot-long crocodile in the area of the rudder pedals. I declined to fly the aircraft as the crocodile was not on the Manifest and had the cargo loader remove the animal, which he did with the help of a native policeman."
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:54 am



I found some more unwanted guests:












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Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:14 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 17):

I guess the Aircraft departed late.After the Spectators left.  Smile
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:20 pm

I used to work for an airfreight airline called Flying Tigers, no doubt some of you have heard of them. Their motto was-Anything Anyplace Anytime. This allegedly happened before I went to work there but was an often repeated story.
Back in the L-1049 days they were transporting a thoroughbred race horse cross country for a championship event. The horse was in some kind of a pen in the forward position in the cabin.
At some point during the flight the horse started to freak out and began kicking at the sides of his pen. As time went on he got more and more frantic, to the point that the flight crew had no idea what to do.
Eventually the poor horse was so scared that he broke free from his pen and headed for the open cockpit door.
As the story was told, the horse came charging forward into the cockpit, the s/o being directly in the horse/s path, grabbed the crash axe and nailed the horse between the eye/s, killing him.
 
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:42 pm

Quoting Abbs380 (Reply 19):
they were transporting a thoroughbred race horse

There is a similar story of a well-known freight hauler transporting a racehorse. Before the flight, the horse was on a rope halter being led into a palletized stall when the engineer tested the fire warning system. The bell apparently sounds just like the starting bell on the gates at a racetrack and the horse sprinted right off the cargo deck . . .

ONA had a walrus for Sea World in SAN dropped from DC-9 deck height by a forklift. Ruined a perfectly good walrus.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:49 pm

Any Incidents Involving Elephants  Smile
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:05 am

I do remember a story about a seal, although it wasn't an "unwanted" guest. A gentlemen I once knew that is now passed away (he did his first flying in WW1) told me about the fun they'd have in the early days of cargo flying when everything was a bit more laidback.

Apparently one flight they were carrying circus animals, including a seal. The animals were in the back and a handler was on board to take care of them. Well, enroute the first officer fell asleep and they decided to have a little fun with him. My esteemed friend climbed out of his seat and the animal handler put the seal in the captain's chair, complete with the captain's hat. Then the handler had the seal clap his flippers and bark. Thus, the slumbering FO was startled suddenly awake to see a clapping and barking seal in the captain's seat. Apparently, he was confused for a good half hour.
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:58 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 21):
.....Involving Elephants

In the mid 1950's, NW transported a two year old Siamese elephant from SEA to ANC in a DC4.

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Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:29 pm

A good friend of mine is a flight mechanic for a 747 based cargo airline that transported a giraffe for some zoo. During the flight the autopilot kept dropping off. He told me they had a heck of a time figuring out why until someone noticed a bunch of hair (fur?) hanging on the cables aft of the flight deck. Seems Mr. Giraffe was scatching his head on the exposed cables and trying to adjust the trim. A/P didn't like it and walked off the job. They ended up with the giraffe on a shorter leash. No more A/P problems
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:48 pm

Quoting Tod (Reply 23):
In the mid 1950's, NW transported a two year old Siamese elephant from SEA to ANC in a DC4.

How was the restraining carried out.
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:01 pm

this brings one of the best stories back to my mind, I have ever came upon in the news.

some japanese fishermen were rescued out at the sea, when their fisherboat had sunk. shortly afterwards, the whole crew got arrested on charges of something like talking bullshit. their story was, that suddenly a frozen cow fell from the sky and crashed and destroyed their boat.

coulple of days later, this story had another part, as the Russian embassy admitted, that the cow was actually thrown out of a Russian military plane, when it got nuts in the cargo hold. The soldiers, who obviously had stolen the cow from a local farmer, brought it on board of a cargo plane and when it freaked out, opened the back ramp and off she went, freezing when falling, and finally crashing the fisherboat.

just imagine, some fishermen teling you about a cow, which fell from the sky.

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Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:06 am

Quoting Macc (Reply 26):

Interesting Tale.
What happened to the Soldiers  Smile
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:50 pm

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 20):
Ruined a perfectly good walrus.

I'm an animal lover, and animals being killed or injured is not good, but I have to admit, I have the giggles after reading that!

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Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting SuperD (Reply 22):

That's fantastic!

I can remember someone posting, I think here, a story about transporting lions? During the flight one of them awoke slightly and put his paw between the pilot and co-pilot and had to be sedated again.
 
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:59 pm

Quoting TimePilot (Reply 29):
I can remember someone posting, I think here, a story about transporting lions? During the flight one of them awoke slightly and put his paw between the pilot and co-pilot and had to be sedated again.

That was another one: In about '75 or '76 they transported a male gorilla from San Diego to St. Louis for breeding purposes. They used a Turbo Commander. All the rear seats were removed and sheets of heavy plastic covered the floors and sidewalls. The gorilla was tranquilized and off he went for his big weekend.

A couple years later they showed up to take him again. This time they had a Lear 25. The attendant explained that the gorilla was waking up by the time the landed in St. Louis and this time they wanted a faster airplane.

I'll BET they did!
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:47 am

Out here during Major Mx,the biggest threats are Rats.So We use the Wheel Guards when work is stopped at Night in the Hangar to avoid them getting into the Wheel well.
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:48 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 20):
Ruined a perfectly good walrus

I just spit my drink all over my paperwork
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:56 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 6):
I got the machete out from under my seat (What? You don't fly with a machete under the seat?) and whacked him good with the flat of the blade. Then scooped him up carefully and put him out the window.

SlamClick, I'd add you to my RU list if you weren't already there. Great story.

Is anyone else thinking this might be the most amusing thread all year?

So far in my 420 hours of flying I don't have any good animal stories, except for having to refuse a takeoff clearance because several foxes had wandered onto the taxiway and were blocking my path to the runway. The tower got a good laugh out of it.
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:42 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 21):
Any Incidents Involving Elephants
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I heard a story from a South African colleague:

A SAA cargo 747 was transporting an elephant in a box, which was open on top. During flight, the aircraft suddenly started to make funny movements and the engines kept on spooling up and down. The crew and the handler went down to the cargo deck and discovered that the elephant was playing with the control cables under the ceiling, just aft of the upper deck.

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Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:17 pm

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 33):
SlamClick, I'd add you to my RU list if you weren't already there. Great story

Totally Agreed.Slamclick.....You should write a book.Your posts are fantastic.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 34):
The crew and the handler went down to the cargo deck and discovered that the elephant was playing with the control cables under the ceiling, just aft of the upper deck.

Wow.Thats probably the last time the lid was off while transporting an Elephant.BTW how did they stop the Elephant from Pulling at the Control cables.Tranqulizer or Food. Smile
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:38 pm

All joking aside, when Eastern had a bad case of roaches in a L-1011 galley we recommended they call the local Orkin man (pest exterminator) did the trick. Every L-1011 we delivered had a placard from the Los Angeles County Department of Health, verifying the galley areas were sanitary. At least when it left the factory.
 
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:54 am

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 32):
Quoting SlamClick (Reply 20):
Ruined a perfectly good walrus

I just spit my drink all over my paperwork

Me too! Damn good post.

My "unwanted guest" wasn't on the flight deck but was a skanky New Jersey girl who wouldn't shut up for the entire flight next to me. The headphones didn't give her a hint I didn't care about how Guido doesn't love her.
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:59 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 31):
Out here during Major Mx,the biggest threats are Rats.So We use the Wheel Guards when work is stopped at Night in the Hangar to avoid them getting into the Wheel well.
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During my apprenticeship with LH in SXF, we had some tame cats roaming around the hangar. They were taken care of by to tool store people. Just their presence (scent) and the presence of goose hawks nesting in the framework above the hangar doors kept rodents away. Try to get a few tame cats into your hangar! It'll work wonders!

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 35):
Wow.Thats probably the last time the lid was off while transporting an Elephant.BTW how did they stop the Elephant from Pulling at the Control cables.Tranqulizer or Food.
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AFAIK, they gave the elephant something more entertaining to play with. They are very intelligent, but due to this get easily bored.

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Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:06 pm

Shortly after take-off in an F/A-18C, I realized I was not the only one on board. A hornet started buzzing around the cockpit (pretty ironic). While trying to join on my lead he decided to land on the back of my neck, which is pretty much the only part of my body not covered by something. I decided he had to go! While flying the jet, joining on my lead, and fighting a hornet, my bucket was quite full but I managed to kill the little guy and not kill myself. I put the dead hornet in my G-suit pocket (now considered FOD), and kept it for the debrief. Sure enough while walking back to the hanger, my lead asked why my join-up was so sloppy. I pulled the dead carcass out of my pocket and told him what happened. For some unknown reason, I put the hornet back in my G-suit and forgot about it. A couple months later while cleaning out my pockets, I found the dead hornet, still there. I guess he found out the hard way that two hornets cannot fly in the same space!
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:46 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 38):
Try to get a few tame cats into your hangar! It'll work wonders!

I hope they did not need Dogs to trace the cats.  Smile,else You'll end up with a zoo.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 38):
they gave the elephant something more entertaining to play with.

Let me guess the F/O.  biggrin 
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:49 am

Add sugar glider to the list. Found this on another thread.

http://starbulletin.com/2005/11/11/news/story06.html
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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:09 am

I read from "Tu-134 - Soviet Short-Range Jet", a wonderful book by Dmitry Komissarov, how somewhere during the 1970's or '80's, a bear cub was transported on a Tu-134 jet (on a regular flight, with human passengers also on board). The cub was kept in a cage in the forward baggage compartment, which is pretty well hidden from the passenger cabin.

During the flight, the young cub must have started to feel uncomfortable with the pressure changes and the noise and everything and started 'leaking'. The problem was swiftly 'taken care of' by the crew. Soon, however, the bear managed to break out of the cage. Luckily, before the youngster had the chance to take a peek into the cabin or the cockpit, a stewardess spotted him and, after getting over the initial shock, she called for backup and the cub was shown the way back to the cage.

The very same book also told a story about how a Tu-134, that visited an exotic African destination, picked up some gigantic cockroaches. Getting rid of the roaches was nearly impossible, as they had been completely immune to poisons. One day one of those beasts had found it's way to the cockpit, and one of the crew members used his shoe to kill it.
 
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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:55 pm

Quoting OV735 (Reply 42):
Getting rid of the roaches was nearly impossible

I guess Insects are the worst to Eliminate.
Anyone having heard not so happy tales with Animals on board leading to accidents.
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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:02 pm

I've read also a very good threat in pprune about exotic cargos... if anyone is interested!

http://www.pprune.com/forums/showthr...952c186253eec29001&threadid=123895
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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:48 am

one time my flight was parked at a gate and there was a bird in the cabin it was weird, i think eventualy it flew out. and another time i was on a CO flight to MCO from IAH and there was a daddy long legs inside of the window pane thing.
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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:14 pm

Quoting JamesJimlb (Reply 45):
one time my flight was parked at a gate and there was a bird in the cabin it was weird, i

Sure sounds weird.Never noticed a Bird Inside the Cabin.Its always on the Aircraft.

For Heavy Mx We always use the rat protector devices around the Aircraft.

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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:05 pm

Wasnt there a story of a woman who got bitten by a poisonous spider on a AA jet in the US?

Ill have a look for the thread.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:00 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 47):
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Wasnt there a story of a woman who got bitten by a poisonous spider on a AA jet in the US?

Ill have a look for the thread.

http://www.nbc5i.com/travelgetaways/9935449/detail.html

Something similiar
http://www.laborlawtalk.com/archive/index.php/t-114474.html

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RE: Unwanted "Guests" On Flight Deck

Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:27 pm

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 20):
Ruined a perfectly good walrus.

Classic SC understatedness. This thread is evolving into a veritable treasure trove of one liners and anecdotal nuggets worth saving for a dozen rainy days.
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