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Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:27 am

Why is it that the cabin lights go off during the take off and landing phase of the flight? This may be a simple answer but so far the people ive asked havent got much of an idea and they're all lecturers on the damn subject!!
Appreciate if anyone can help...Thanks

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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:38 am

from what i understand its so that peoples eyes can adjust to the dark if there is a failure and they have to evacuate quickly... so once their down the slides they can see were there going and not fall over and stuff. so no it isnt for passenger comfort like they say
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:10 am

Instresting question, I dont know why.

One question I had is why do some airlines (I've seen it done in a US Airways Express flight) request that the passengers leave the window shades up.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:22 am

Quoting Liedetectors (Reply 2):
One question I had is why do some airlines (I've seen it done in a US Airways Express flight) request that the passengers leave the window shades up.

I think it's so ground crews would be able to see inside if they had to assist.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:34 am

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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:36 am

Its simple if you have the light on inside you cannot see outside as well. Check it out for your self turn the lights on and look outside, then turn the inside light off.
 
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 12:02 pm

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):

Correct.

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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:10 pm

It does take a long time for the eye to completely adjust, and turning the reading light on will ruin night vision anyway. But it is an extra precaution.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:38 pm

Are there reasons to have them on as well? I know Qantas is one airline that have all the cabin lights turned on at full during takeoffs and landings.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:32 pm

Quoting Mr.BA (Reply 8):
I know Qantas is one airline that have all the cabin lights turned on at full during takeoffs and landings.

Interesting.
The Dimming of the Cabin lights during T/O & Landings is to get the Pax Vision accustomed to darkness in case of an Emergency to be able to view the outside better & the Emergency floor evacuation strips.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:29 pm

Quoting Liedetectors (Reply 2):
One question I had is why do some airlines (I've seen it done in a US Airways Express flight) request that the passengers leave the window shades up.

In case of an Evac, depending on the airline, the cabin crew will decide which doors not to use for evacuation. This is why it's very important to have the shades up, so they can see outside quickly.

You really don't want to evacuate to the right when the right wing is on fire. The thing is when you do open the door on the right, people will just flood out in a frenzy like lemmings, whether there's a fire or not. So that's why. The pilots usually cannot see that from the cockpit and they are working on their procedures as well, so most of the time, the cabin crew will decide this.

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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:09 pm

Quoting Liedetectors (Reply 2):
One question I had is why do some airlines (I've seen it done in a US Airways Express flight) request that the passengers leave the window shades up.

I asked my ex this question, hes a flight attendant for VS. This is so that passengers can react to any problems during take off, e.g. engine fire... If the shades are closed, passengers wont scream when an engine catches fire, flap fairing falls off and therefore flight attendants can't report to flight deck if they havent already realised.

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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:31 pm

So you can start your "Mile High Club" excursion.
 
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:05 pm

Quoting BA767s (Reply 11):
If the shades are closed, passengers wont scream when an engine catches fire, flap fairing falls off and therefore flight attendants can't report to flight deck if they havent already realised

A crash/abnormal situation will be known with out looking out.Closing Window shades wont help much.Better to leave it open & know whats going on.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:05 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
I presume you are joking

i dont think personally he is joking as if a part of the wing falls off and people start to scream then the F/a will see somethings up check it out and preper the cabin for a aircraft ditching/emergency landing ETC
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:50 am

Quoting Mr.BA (Reply 8):
Are there reasons to have them on as well? I know Qantas is one airline that have all the cabin lights turned on at full during takeoffs and landings

Not any more!
 
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:34 am

Quoting Grbld (Reply 10):
You really don't want to evacuate to the right when the right wing is on fire. The thing is when you do open the door on the right, people will just flood out in a frenzy like lemmings, whether there's a fire or not.

And smoke won't flood the cabin (as quickly): British Airtours, Manchester
 
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:30 pm

Does FA training simulate smoke during Evacuations.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:05 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 17):
Does FA training simulate smoke during Evacuations.

Yes, most (if not all?) airlines do.

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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:34 am

No HAWK, I wasnt joking... I dont see whats funny about what I wrote. That source of info about monitoring cabin climate was from a flight attendant.

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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:49 pm

Quoting BA767s (Reply 19):
I dont see whats funny about what I wrote. That source of info about monitoring cabin climate was from a flight attendant.

Point noted.I guess the words gave a different impression as to wouldnt an emergency give a different vibration during a cruising flt.
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RE: Lights Off On Take Off And Landing

Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:11 am

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
from what i understand its so that peoples eyes can adjust to the dark if there is a failure and they have to evacuate quickly... so once their down the slides they can see were there going and not fall over and stuff. so no it isnt for passenger comfort like they say

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Quoting CitationJet (Reply 4):
This is a safety consideration. In the event it becomes necessary to evacuate the airplane, your eyes are already adjusted.

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Quoting Grbld (Reply 10):
In case of an Evac, depending on the airline, the cabin crew will decide which doors not to use for evacuation. This is why it's very important to have the shades up, so they can see outside quickly.

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