LHMark
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Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:16 pm

Recently, my CFI belly landed a Cessna Cardinal. Due to an unreplaced cotter pin, the nosegear did not extend and lock. His handling of the landing was flawless- a fact noted in the FAA report.

My question: Does this type of real-life emergency experience set a job candidate above the pack in the eyes of the airlines?
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lowrider
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:16 pm

Depends on the emergency and how it was handled. If it was self induced, I would say no. If it was handled poorly I would also say no. If these were brought up in an interview, I would use them as an opportunity to talk about what I learned from the experience rather than try to impress the interviewer with my nerves of steel.
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Grbld
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:35 pm

Rule #1 of resume writing: Don't put ANYTHING negative in there. That includes items that could evoke even the slightest negative feeling or emotion in the letter-reader's mind.

But, Lowrider's very right. It can work to your advantage as a story that you can use to emphasize your skill during the interview. Having stories about your experience is always a great tool in the interview. It actually works relaxing, to speak of your own experiences, the interviewers can see your enthusiasm and knowledge and it kills the time  Smile

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turnit56N
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:55 pm

It's nothing to put on a resume or bring up yourself. However, many if not most pilot interviews will ask if you've ever had an emergency. If the situation is explained and the applicant puts a heavy emphasis on what was learned, it can be a positive thing.

Any kind of "I'm just such an awesomely skilled pilot" attitude tends to not go over so well in an interview.
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:32 am

Quoting Turnit56N (Reply 3):
It's nothing to put on a resume

I agree. For one thing, the resumé goes first to HR where it will be seen by people who know nothing about aviation. If that is seen by one fearful flyer it could be the kiss of death.

The resumé and interview evolution are pretty straightforward. They need YOU or someone just like you. You have one simple (but not necessarily easy) job and that is NOT to get in the way of the process.

Anything scary, anything controversial, anything not dead-center mainstream might be better left in your bag of tricks to be pulled out if it becomes appropriate at some point.

I'd be proud of a well-executed emergency. Well, I've had them and I AM proud of them but they are not the first thing to lay on the table.

There is one more thing. People, even well-educated, highly-intelligent people are still pretty primitive. Most keep their superstitions to themselves but I've known a number of people who, deep down, beleived that there were only two kinds of pilots: Those who are capable of having a crash and those who are incapable of having a crash. If you admit to having bent the tin, no matter the cause, no matter your role, you move yourself into the second category. They'd never come out and say this, but it will influence their decision.

At most airlines HR gets at least as much voice in pilot hiring as flight ops. They are the first filter.

Don't get in the way of the process.

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CosmicCruiser
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:11 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 4):
At most airlines HR gets at least as much voice in pilot hiring as flight ops. They are the first filter.

Thank goodness at Fedex I don't think that HR is in the loop. It stays in flt ops and will be sorted by pilots. The interview is done by pilots. Having said that, I agree with SLAM and the others I wouldn't make it point of bringing attention to this unless they ask. Years ago here one of the interview questions was "what's the dumbest thing you've ever done in an airplane?" You had better think before answering that one because to say you never did anything runs up the bulls**t flag and to answer real truthfully may get you eliminated. ouch!!
 
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:23 am

Quoting LHMARK (Thread starter):
Due to an unreplaced cotter pin, the nosegear did not extend and lock.

Shouldn't the missing pin been noticed during pre-flight?
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SlamClick
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:07 am

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 6):
Shouldn't the missing pin been noticed during pre-flight?

That is precisely the sort of question one of the interviewers might have - but not ask!

Quoting CosmicCruiser (Reply 5):
It stays in flt ops and will be sorted by pilots.

I'm sort of with you here, but I have to acknowledge that HR is based on some actual rules and lore. It is likely that an HR-trained person can sort through peoples' backgrounds and resumes with some expertise that we pilots might not ever have. Truly the technical stuff needs to be analyzed by people who know what the applicant is talking about, but HR does still bring something to the party.
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CosmicCruiser
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RE: Emergency Landing As Resume Item?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 7):
HR-trained person can sort through peoples' backgrounds and resumes

I don't about that but nowdays I know that the great majority of accepted resumes are hand carried by a "sponsor" pilot. Unfortunately too, applicants with the minimum requirements nowdays won't be considered.

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