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Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:39 pm

I frequently see yellow/black stickers at aircraft doors when I board. Most of the time a couple of them on top of each other. They seem to be a kind of seal from maintenance which break up when the door would be opened. I just wondered what they stand for and why they are not removed but left there. It makes a strange view.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:02 am

As you give no real details, I will generalise.
Some airlines/countries require their aircraft secured when they spend the night at a foreign airport. The easiest way to do this is with a seal on the doors.
Why aren't they removed? Laziness.
 
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:13 am

thanks for the explanation. good reason.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:41 am

Most of them also stick like the devil and are a bitch to remove (obviously you don't want a criminal to just unstick a seal, open the door and stick it back afterwards, so they are designed to rather break than to unstick).

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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:58 am

Yep, they are security at its best. When the flight crew arrives to an airplane and the seal is broken they know someone other than them has opened a part of the airplane (stickers are on all (cargo) doors, maintenance access doors and the like).

Now, the funny thing is that they are actually useless, at least at one airport I worked the ones who applied the stickers where the aircraft (inside/outside) cleaners and they were usually the ones working for leasing companies ("ISS" etc..) therefore being the ones with the lowest pay. The Crews of aircraft arriving at night where long gone while these cleaners did their job..
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:01 am

There are also the "Security Seal" stickers. I never got to see one though. I looked everywhere but only found the dogs...  Sad
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:45 am

Ive been on American Eagle ERJs that had quite a few stickers on them. AEs were silver and said "American Eagle" and some other writing.
If it was said by us, then it must be true.
 
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:47 am

"SEAL VOID IF BROKEN" perhaps..
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:30 pm

I've seen NetJets pilots put them on their airplanes. A little red sticker about 1" x 3" with an identification number printed on it. It's all about security. They even lock the aircraft doors and double-up with the sticker.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:22 pm

These must be the stickers I've seen on the little compartment doors inside the lav's on UAL lately. Doors for tissues, trash and even the toilet shroud.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:42 pm

Out here They are used by the Security Department mainly when the Aircraft is parked for a long halt.If the Sticker is torn off.A detailed check is done for suspected tampering.
The Stickers when removed break up into pieces & are tough to take off at times,especially when it sticks to the corners of the door frames.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:12 pm

On our ferry flights customs places them on all the doors and anything that looks like a door. The worst to remove are we found applied in India and Sweden.

We are having to look into the seals on the lavs etc in case objects placed behind the panels, this is a problem on older jets as they do not have the lovely big one piece formed units (the problem is some panels are low, so kids get at them in the lav, so what do you do when the seal is broken, we still discussing this issue........ sticker loose so divert immediately? maybe not)
 
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:07 pm

Hands up who takes the tissues out of the toilets on a wet day too wipe the door/fuse aperture before trying too stick the bloody things on!
 
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
The Stickers when removed break up into pieces & are tough to take off at times,especially when it sticks to the corners of the door frames

Also forgot to mention that these Stickers have a Signature column which is filled by the Security staff supervising the Closure of that door & his signature & no is added on it.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:37 am

Cruise ships have these stickers which is put on gift shops on board. Most of the time it's an official sticker of the government to where it's docked at during it's trip other than it's home country.

Like a US reg'ed cruise ship leaves from Mami, FL to St. Martin, you'd see a orange sticker on the gift shop doors saying it's illegal to conduct business while docked at this country and it will be removed on departure.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:22 pm

We get those stickers on our a/c that spend the night at yvr and a few other places.They are put on all of the cargo and pax doors.If the seals are broken the a/c requires another security check.
 
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:03 am

Quoting A/c train (Reply 12):
Hands up who takes the tissues out of the toilets on a wet day too wipe the door/fuse aperture before trying too stick the bloody things on!

Well I don't take them from the toilet because I have a stock in my van now because of the amount of times we have to put these silly stickers on. Even if you leave the aircraft for like 10 mins to go back to the office for something you have to put a sticker on.
 
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Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:09 am



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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:11 am

Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 16):
Even if you leave the aircraft for like 10 mins to go back to the office for something you have to put a sticker on.

Who puts the Sticker.
Mx or Security.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:11 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 18):
Who puts the Sticker.
Mx or Security.

It is us in Mx that puts the sticker on the door. There would not be enough people in security to put stickers on everytime we had to stick one over the door at an airport like LGW. The procedures do vary from airport to airport though, but I guess it probably best to not say much more than that on a public forum like this.
 
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:34 pm

Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 19):
The procedures do vary from airport to airport



Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 19):
It is us in Mx that puts the sticker on the door

Is the Sticker signed by the person installing it.And who removes it.
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 18):
Who puts the Sticker.

whoever secures the aircraft. When the security search is completed, authorized person (i.e. supervisor of cleaning crew) sign the security slip that the security search of the aircraft was completed, at what time, what is the aircraft fleet number, and that person seals the doors then. (at least here at ORD)
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:19 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 20):
Is the Sticker signed by the person installing it.And who removes it.

No it is not signed but the stickers are serialised and the serial number is recorded along with the time and the person who fitted it in our security book.
 
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RE: Aircraft Door Seal Stickers

Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:46 pm

Thanks....Surprisingly how different common things are done around the world  Smile
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