spikebe90
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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:36 am

To all you A-Net people.If I am off the topic,please let me know.Could you please tell me if any of the new airliner buildes are equipped with FADEC?
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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:48 am

FADEC is Full Authority Digital Engine Control, or EEC Electronic Engine Control. Virtually all new build turbofan engines are now controlled by this system.

Is this what you're asking?
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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:02 pm

I'm pretty sure they all are nowadays. It's a standard flight deck feature on large commercial airliners like autothrottles and GPS and lambskin seatcovers. (Well, maybe not that last one...  wink  )

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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:11 pm

Thanks.We are looking at a CJ-2 + that has FADEC.I've never used it before.Should be interesting.
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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:18 pm

I assume most new turbine aircraft will have FADEC.
The new Cessna Citation Mustang (4 place, 8,000 lb jet aircraft) will have dual channel FADEC controlled engines.
Also the Cessna Citation CJ1+ and CJ2+ Part 23 jet have FADEC.
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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:54 pm

The best analogy for FADEC/EEC would a comparison of an old technology (carburaterur) auto engine to a new one with electronic fuel injection. From the user's perspective, it's much easier and more reliable.

Speaking as a pilot, the days of the mechanical fuel control units are long gone. I've been on FADEC/EEC engines since about 1987 and can't think of a single FADEC/EEC problem I've had. However in the 12 years prior to that, I lost count of the mechanical fuel control problems I encountered.
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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:25 pm

Quoting Spikebe90 (Reply 3):
Thanks.We are looking at a CJ-2 + that has FADEC.I've never used it before.Should be interesting.

Those new FJ44-3-24 engines are supposed to be awesome. It can carry alot of weight (tanks full) and get over 1500nm. Throw in the Collins 21 Avionics suite and that thing is a dream to fly. We are acquiring one as well.
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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:34 pm

Thanks guys.I'm looking foreward to flying this airplane ,,using FADEC,and also the Pro Line avionics suite.

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Any Aircraft Equipped With FADEC?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:02 am

The Dash 8-Q400 also has FADEC. I don't know if any other turboprops have it.
 
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:20 am

EEC is also becoming more and more common on light piston singles and twins. It is standard on most of the new diesel models and several avgas powered aircraft have it as well.
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:29 am

"The FAA has approved the Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) for general aviation. Developed by Teledyne Continental Motors and Aerosance, the system uses computers to better track and optimize engine conditions, adjusting mixture, carb heat, propeller pitch and power automatically. Aerosance claims that FADEC greatly improves engine performance, lowering fuel burn by as much as 15%. Retrofit kits are available for Bonanzas, and STCs are in the works for Barons and Cessna 206/210s. Teledyne says FADEC systems will be standard or optional equipment on the Adam A500, Cirrus SR22, Lancair 350 and 400, Liberty XL-2 and Diamond C-1."


http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/products/2003/jan.html

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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:18 am

Quoting Spikebe90 (Thread starter):
Could you please tell me if any of the new airliner buildes are equipped with FADEC?

The Embraer 135/140/145/170/175/190/195 have all FADAC.
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:00 pm

Most current modern Aircraft are FADEC equipped.
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:04 pm

Something in the RB211 thread about QF 767-336ERs recently being equipped with FADEC, but their own -338ERs haven't yet.
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:58 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 13):

Whats the difference between -336ERs & -338ERs.
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 14):
Whats the difference between -336ERs & -338ERs

36 is the Boeing customer code referring to British Airways and 38 is the customer referring to Qantas.

The 767-336ERs were built for BA and are a number of them are currently on lease to Qantas. Their registrations are VH-ZX* and they are equipped with the RB211s and they've got 4 exit doors. The leases were just renewed and apparently they recently equipped them with FADEC.

The 767-338ERs are Qantas build machines. They've got CF6s and 2 emergency exit doors/2 overwing exits.
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 15):

Educational.
Thanks.
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RE: Any Aircraft Equipped With Fadec?

Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:42 pm

Walter M601 turboprop engine uses IELU, which is a intervention limiter unit - not sure if this is equivalent to FADEC.
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