lorenz
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CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:36 am

Read in another topic that they are planing fuel stop ARN, and another posted OSL.

Does anyone have any more information on this one?


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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:43 pm

any chance AA would do that on the ORD-DEL-ORD sector in the summertime?

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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:43 pm

According to CO Rep at ARN, the baggage weight is too great for non-stop and they are now planning a stop at ARN on Del-EWR sector with arrival ARN 0350.
 
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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:59 am

What about EWR-HKG then, which is approx. 7009nm, compared with 6364 for DEL...? Is there really that much more baggage on the DEL route?
 
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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:30 am

Quoting Star_world (Reply 3):
What about EWR-HKG then, which is approx. 7009nm, compared with 6364 for DEL...? Is there really that much more baggage on the DEL route?

There may also be a prevailing winds difference. This can eat up the 650nm pretty fast.
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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:48 am

According to the Great Circle Mapper, EWR-ARN-DEL is pretty much all on the same great circle route.





From To Distance
2 segment path: 7404 mi
EWR (40°41'33"N 74°10'07"W) ARN (59°39'07"N 17°55'07"E) 3930 mi
ARN (59°39'07"N 17°55'07"E) DEL (28°33'59"N 77°06'11"E) 3474 mi
EWR (40°41'33"N 74°10'07"W) DEL (28°33'59"N 77°06'11"E) 7324 mi
Total: 14727 mi

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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:05 am

This is off the CO employee reservation system:


"Pass Travel Alert for DEL, PEK and HKG

CO pass riders are advised that the passenger boarding totals (PBT)
for flights departing Delhi (DEL), Beijing (PEK) and Hong Kong (HKG) can
give a false impression of seat availability.
Because of the flight�s length and possible enroute weather, the aircraft
must carry an enormous amount of fuel and is often weight restricted. The flight then
leaves with empty seats but cannot accept pass riders due to weight of fuel and the high
demand for freight and mail onboard.
These destinations are experiencing strong load factors as the word spreads
about CO�s award-winning service. As the company moves into the busy
summer travel season, it is highly recommended that pass riders plan
alternate itineraries and secure backup passes on other airlines before
departing to these destinations."
 
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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:53 pm

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 5):
According to the Great Circle Mapper, EWR-ARN-DEL is pretty much all on the same great circle route.

HEL, OUL and RVN in Finland would be even closer to the GC route... Wink
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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Mon May 08, 2006 2:46 am

That is true upper deck79, but ARN is a Continental station which simplifies
handling greatly.

I am sure that was a factor in choosing this tech stop.


I hope we can find the aircraft to start service to Helsinki though.
Would like, very much to visit.

Cheers.
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RE: CO DEL-EWR Fuelstop?

Mon May 08, 2006 9:29 pm

Quoting Max Q (Reply 8):
That is true upper deck79, but ARN is a Continental station which simplifies
handling greatly.

I am sure that was a factor in choosing this tech stop.

I hope we can find the aircraft to start service to Helsinki though.
Would like, very much to visit.

Of course, you are right.  Wink

Maybe you could visit by flying someone else? I'm booked on AY HEL-JFK-HEL next month. The price was incredible - 298 euros! (That's like 350 USD.)
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