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Big Planes...Short Runways?

Thu May 04, 2006 5:02 am

Was thinking...What Airports have scheduled Large plane service.747...777..etc.with relatively short runways..and what Airports are Alt.Airports or have had emergency landings by Large Planes that have Short Runways?
 
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Thu May 04, 2006 5:10 am

SXM's runway is only around 7,000 ft. IIRC, and it receives 747s.
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Thu May 04, 2006 5:57 pm

sxm rwy length : 7,708FT 2 349M

There must be shorter somewhere? I wouldnt imagine anything under 7000FT would get a 747 or A340.
 
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Fri May 05, 2006 4:26 am

IIRC, NRT has a fairly short runway (16L/34R) that is used for landings only by big planes. Takeoffs go on the longer one.

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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Fri May 05, 2006 5:07 am

See this topic:
772 Being Operated To/from 28m Wide Runway? (by A342 Mar 9 2006 in Tech Ops)

The runway the 772 operates to is only some 2000m long.

Although not scheduled, I think for cargo conversion some MD-11s go to XSP which has a 1600m runway, but somehow I can't believe this ?
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Fri May 05, 2006 5:22 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
IIRC, NRT has a fairly short runway (16L/34R) that is used for landings only by big planes. Takeoffs go on the longer one.

That is also one of the reasons why NRT is currently slot restricted, but eventually the runway will be lengthened, so more takeoffs can take place from 16L/34R.
 
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Fri May 05, 2006 6:24 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 5):
Quoting Mir (Reply 3):
IIRC, NRT has a fairly short runway (16L/34R) that is used for landings only by big planes. Takeoffs go on the longer one.

That is also one of the reasons why NRT is currently slot restricted, but eventually the runway will be lengthened, so more takeoffs can take place from 16L/34R.

Isn't this dependent on some farmer?
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Fri May 05, 2006 9:02 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):
Isn't this dependent on some farmer?

That was when the runway was actually built. That farmer didn't want to give up the land, but now that the runway will get extended, it will go the other way, where there are no farmers. I recall the construction of NRT was very controversial in Japan.
 
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Fri May 05, 2006 10:08 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 7):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):
Isn't this dependent on some farmer?

That was when the runway was actually built. That farmer didn't want to give up the land, but now that the runway will get extended, it will go the other way, where there are no farmers. I recall the construction of NRT was very controversial in Japan.

I knew there was a farmer involved somehow. Big grin

Thx for the info!
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Fri May 05, 2006 10:27 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 8):
I knew there was a farmer involved somehow.

IIRC, said farmer owned the land that was the middle third of the runway, and was very stubborn about keeping it. Thus, two thirds of it were completed, but with a big gap in the middle. I guess they got him to give it up somehow.

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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Wed May 10, 2006 9:53 am

I have seen UA 777s at OGG where the longest runway is 7,000 ft. CO (and DL?) has operated the 764 there in the past and Hawaiian (and AA?) operates the 763 from there.

LGA receives significant 767 service with 2 runways that are both no longer than 7,000 ft.

I don't remember the specifics but I do recall a certain DC-10 making an emergency landing at DCA, whose longest runway is 6,869 ft.
 
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RE: Big Planes...Short Runways?

Wed May 10, 2006 11:07 am

Quoting Joffie (Reply 2):
I wouldn't imagine anything under 7000FT would get a 747 or A340.

Heavy jets routinely land runway 27 at BOS which is 7000ft in length.

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