bucchinij
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Piaggio Avanti Propeller De/anti-ice

Sat May 13, 2006 3:02 pm

Hello all,
I was just browsing pictures of the Piaggio P-180 Avanti, and it got me thinking... The exhaust pipe shoots the exhaust gases directly into the propeller stream. Does this mean that the aircraft does not need any electrical/pneumatic anti or de-ice for the props?
This picture clearly shows the design:

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RE: Piaggio Avanti Propeller De/anti-ice

Sat May 13, 2006 3:31 pm

Well judging from this photo it doesn't look like it does.


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The exhaust is definately too close for the typical electric rubber boots I am used to looking it.
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RE: Piaggio Avanti Propeller De/anti-ice

Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:09 am

Extremely old topic, I know. But:
The Piaggio Avanti has a mixture of different types of de- and anti- icing devices. The forward wing is electrically heated, the engine intake lips have pneumatic boots, the main wing both inboard and outboard of the engine nacelles are heated with bleed air and the props and entire tail section is unheated.
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RE: Piaggio Avanti Propeller De/anti-ice

Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:20 am

I would have thought that using boots for the intakes would just blow chunks of ice back into the blades...

Anyone know why boots? I can understand the canard being electric to avoid piping bleed air forward and through the cabin... But the bleed air is already in the nacelle to start, why not pipe it to the intakes?
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