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FAA's Flight Check/Transport Aircraft

Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:34 am



So I ran across this image of an FAA-operated Global Express:


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...and I can't help but wonder what different capabilities justify operating both a Global Express and a G-IV:


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In other words, why not operate two G-IVs, or two BD-700s? I understand the two models have different ranges, but would that really outweigh the benefits of commonality?




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RE: FAA's Flight Check/Transport Aircraft

Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:11 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Thread starter):
In other words, why not operate two G-IVs, or two BD-700s? I understand the two models have different ranges, but would that really outweigh the benefits of commonality?

You really have to sit and think about it. The GIV and the BD-700 are two completely different breeds of aircraft. I have a feeling that N1 reg. is meant for an aircraft of this type. The current N1 GIV is not the same as it was 2-4 years ago. There is also 4-5 other Challengers in the FAA fleet. These two aircraft are nitch aircraft. The GIV is a big mid-range aircraft where the BD-700 is the ultamate in long range. They also have a large fleet of Hakwers, Beech, and Learjet aircraft. I have a feeling these kinds of fleet choices were made for specific reasoning and not just a whim.

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RE: FAA's Flight Check/Transport Aircraft

Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:19 pm




Quoting UA777222 (Reply 1):
I have a feeling these kinds of fleet choices were made for specific reasoning and not just a whim.

Oh, I'm not suggesting otherwise. I'm just curious about the requirements and selection process.

I find it surprising that the FAA requires such a vast array of bizjet types, and would like to learn more about their specific mission profiles.




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RE: FAA's Flight Check/Transport Aircraft

Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:03 am

The Gulfstream is 18 years old and may be retired soon the Bombardier was purchased in 2005.
 
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RE: FAA's Flight Check/Transport Aircraft

Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:55 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 2):
Oh, I'm not suggesting otherwise. I'm just curious about the requirements and selection process.

I find it surprising that the FAA requires such a vast array of bizjet types, and would like to learn more about their specific mission profiles.

The FAA's current jet aircraft fleet looks like this;

2x 727 (Long Range)
1x GIV (12-14+ pax 3200nm-4500nm $17,000,000.00)
1x BD-700 (14-18 pax 6500nm $41,000,000.00)
4x CL-600 (8-12pax 3200nm $8,000,000.00 -- 13,000,000.00)
6x LJ-60 (6-8 pax 2000nm $4,500,000.00 -- 7,000,000.00)
3x HWK-800A (6-8 pax 2100nm $4,300,000.00 -- $6,000,000.00)

The G-IV, in my opinion, has a very needed place in the FAA fleet. The size alone is 20+ feet longer than the Challenger. Cargo and Passenger capability is far better in a G-IV than in the Challenger. The BD-700, like the G-IV is clearly out ranged compared to the rest. I don't think a fleet of 2+ BD-700's is necessary. They are the FAA and their coverage should maily be the 50 United States. The G-IV should be able to do JFK-HNL-JFK with one stop going non-stop back, though it would be pushing it's range. It would also be able to do JFK-ANC-JFK non-stop both ways. So, while I think it is a bit odd to have a Gulfstream in such a large fleet of Lear's (now Bombardier), Hawkers, and Challengers (Essentially Bombardier), it does hold it's own in the fleet if you take a step back and look at what they're working with.

So again, my guess is just nitch aircraft.

Thanks!

Matt
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