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B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:02 pm

Are there any Noticable Differences with The Panels on the B757 & B767 Aircraft from Flight Deck Point of View.If so what are they.
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:53 pm

The first one that comes to mind Mel is that the Hydraulic panel is completely different on the 767, it has primary and demand pumps with a rotary switch for the demand pumps with 'OFF', 'AUTO' and 'ON' positions.

The pneumatic/air conditioning panel is also different on the 767, it has left and right isolation valve switches. It also has 4 zone temp selectors (3 cabin and 1 flightdeck), on the -300 anyway, I can't remember the -200.

The 767 has cargo heat push button switches on the overhead for the 'FWD', 'AFT' and 'BULK'.

The equipment cooling selector is a 3 position rotary switch on the 767 as opposed to a push button switch.

There is also the fuel jettison system on the 767 aswell, and these are only overhead panel differences, I am sure I could come up with more if I thought about the whole flightdeck.

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Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:24 pm


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B767 & B757 comparism Pics.
What about P61 panel [RH side].Is it present on B767.
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:22 am

Yes the P61 panel is present on the 767 aswell. The layout of the equipment on the P61 panel is usually down to the customer spec at build.

On the 757 you have hydraulic isolation switches for the 3 systems going to the tail but on the 767 you can isolate the wings aswell. There are 6 switches one for each system for the tail and one for each system going to the wings.

The squib test lights are different, there is two test switches and only the test switch one will light up the APU light because there is only one squib for the APU.

There are a few other slight differences aswell that I can't remember right now.
 
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:26 am

And don't forget the step into the cockpit!
Up into a B767 and down into a B757.
 
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:05 am

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
And don't forget the step into the cockpit!
Up into a B767 and down into a B757.

By far the most important difference!

I nearly broke my neck rushing into a 757 cockpit once!
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:21 am

Let's not forget the F/E position in the 767 cockpit. Big grin


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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):
Let's not forget the F/E position in the 767 cockpit.

I have seen the EICAS screens there on El Al, but never a real F/E panel.
Who has this? Are they still working, or have they all been converted to 2 crew operation now?
Your top photo looks like a standard B767. Very similar to a B757. No switches there to operate in flt.
 
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:42 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):
Let's not forget the F/E position in the 767 cockpit

It's Starlionblue's personal B767, assembled over eight years and thousands of Ebay purchases.... Smile
 
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:44 am

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 7):
I have seen the EICAS screens there on El Al, but never a real F/E panel.
Who has this? Are they still working, or have they all been converted to 2 crew operation now?

I believe these particular pics are from Ansett. I believe Aeroflot also had a 3 man cockpit on the 767.

As far as I know, they have all been converted to standard.
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:22 am

Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
And don't forget the step into the cockpit!
Up into a B767 and down into a B757.

Why is this Difference present.Any reason.Is the Main Deck Floor Height Different.

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):
Let's not forget the F/E position in the 767 cockpit.

An EICAS screen on P61.Thats new.

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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:26 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 9):
believe these particular pics are from Ansett

Yes now I remember.
When the B767 was designed it was a 3 crew aircraft. Before delivery it was changed to a two crew aircraft, but the Ansett unions managed to insist on a 3 crew aircraft.
While short range aircraft had been two crew for ages, it was the B767 and A310 which introduced long haul two crew aircraft, and it was very contoversial at the time.
 
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:29 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
And don't forget the step into the cockpit!
Up into a B767 and down into a B757.

Why is this Difference present.Any reason.Is the Main Deck Floor Height Different.

My interpretation is that the upper lobe of the 767 is much larger, so there is more space for the flight deck. The 757 has a narrower body, so the flight deck has to be pushed down towards the centre of the fuse to avoid making it stick out..

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 6):
Let's not forget the F/E position in the 767 cockpit.

An EICAS screen on P61.Thats new.

As I recall, that whole F/E position was a huge hash-up.
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Quoting TristarSteve (Reply 4):
And don't forget the step into the cockpit!
Up into a B767 and down into a B757.

Why is this Difference present.Any reason.Is the Main Deck Floor Height Different.

This was done to make the physical cockpit size the same in two different fuselage sizes.
 
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:29 pm

Quoting AvionicMech (Reply 1):
The equipment cooling selector is a 3 position rotary switch on the 767 as opposed to a push button switch.

There is a fourth position "refrig" if the aircraft has an ACRU.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...h_ops/read.main/143280/6/#ID143280
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RE: B757 & 767 Flight Deck Differences

Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:35 pm

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 14):
There is a fourth position "refrig" if the aircraft has an ACRU.

What about Moisture in that Air going to the Modules.
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