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Yellow Tire Smoke?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:03 pm

Saw this photo in the new shots and I was wondering where the yellow tire smoke comes from? Is it just some sort of optical illusion or a byproduct of the tire compound? Not all of the smoke is yellow so I don't think I'm seeing things or that it is something from a filter on the camera. Maybe this is common, but I don't recall seeing it before, not that I usually go around studying picture of tire smoke.  Smile

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:02 pm

MMMMM well after hours of analysis the following results have surfaced:

1. Landing competition.
2. Landed on an exploding golf ball.
3. Pollen on the runway.
4. Lav flushing agent has been updated and was dumped on arrival.
5. New NASA orbiter returning from MARS.

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:10 pm

Freshly painted taxiway lines?

Though the golf ball theory is also an interesting possibility...

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:13 pm

How about maybe there new tires so its burning off the top protection layer?

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:21 pm

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 3):
How about maybe there new tires so its burning off the top protection layer?

I must really be bored today.....wouldn't that have required an in air tire change sort of like a NASCAR pitstop at 39,000'! I'd think alot of that "top protection" would go away on take-off!!! Oh this leads my mind to another concept.......Trojans on the runway and it burst  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:41 pm

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 4):
IAHFLYR

But wouldnt landing burn off more as the tires arent as hot on take off as they are on landing?


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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:25 pm

Looks like touchdown was right on the numbers, which look fairly freshly painted, so my vote would be that it is the reflective dust that gets dusted over the top layer of the paint while it is still wet.

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:05 am

Paint Dust.
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:21 am

Quoting Meister808 (Reply 6):
Looks like touchdown was right on the numbers

Doesn't look like that. It looks to me more like a perfect touchdown, right in the TDZ, on the blocks.
 
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:19 am

Looks to me like the dust originates from the centerline stripe, but why would it be yellow, who knows...
 
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:26 am

Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 9):
Looks to me like the dust originates from the centerline stripe, but why would it be yellow

It's simple: if you look at the picture, you'll see an exit to a taxiway just behind the TDZ.

Quoting FrancoBlanco (Reply 2):
Freshly painted taxiway lines?

That's the only logical conclusion. Paint dust from freshly painted taxiway lines.
 
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:47 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
That's the only logical conclusion.

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Just joking!

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:11 am

Quoting FrancoBlanco (Reply 11):
Did I win? Did I win? Woohoo!

Haha! I was just using your post to make my point clear.  Smile
 
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:49 am

You should not breath yellow smoke!
 
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 10:35 pm

Why wouldn't they close the runway to landing/maybe take-offs if the paint is wet. Wouldn't the planes landing make a mess of the lines if the paint is wet?
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting 474218 (Reply 13):
You should not breath yellow smoke!

The same as you shouldnt eat yellow snow  silly 

I guess everyone agrees its the new runway markings, although why isnt the smoke white because most runway markings are white.

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:12 pm

probably hit the yellow taxi line
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Sat Sep 02, 2006 9:59 pm

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 14):
Why wouldn't they close the runway to landing/maybe take-offs if the paint is wet. Wouldn't the planes landing make a mess of the lines if the paint is wet

The Paint used on Taxipaths & Runways are Quick drying.The closure is only for the Painting Job.Adequate Drying time is provided before Ops resume.
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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:39 am

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
MMMMM well after hours of analysis the following results have surfaced:

1. Landing competition.
2. Landed on an exploding golf ball.
3. Pollen on the runway.
4. Lav flushing agent has been updated and was dumped on arrival.
5. New NASA orbiter returning from MARS.

You forgot:

6. Banana peels on the runway

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:02 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 8):
right in the TDZ, on the blocks

Touchdown Zone seems more probable, If the paint were wet, or if it were the dust wouldn't this dramatically reduce the friction on the tyres? ... longer stoppage distance?

Sorry if that seems silly

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RE: Yellow Tire Smoke?

Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:05 pm

Quoting Tom12 (Reply 19):
If the paint were wet, or if it were the dust wouldn't this dramatically reduce the friction on the tyres? ... longer stoppage distance

Not if the Painted surface contacted only one Tire.Remember there are many more.
The Paint dust is dried paint that accumulates post spraying operation.

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