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Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:44 am

I was just watching a KC-135E land on www.flightlevel350.com, and I notices that it had a very nose down landing for a jet. When I look at a 707 landing it nose seem to stand a little higher. I know that a KC-135 (717) and 707 are different aircraft, so is one of different is that a KC-135 lands almost nose down?
 
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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:19 pm

KC135 types generally do not have full span leading edge devices as do the later B707 types, so yes, the pitch angle on approach may indeed appear a bit more 'nose down' than with the B707.
 
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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:31 am

KC-135 is not a 717 derivative but a derivative of the Boeing 367-80 which is the proof of concept for the 707!

The 707 Derivative KC-135 are designated A Variants if i'm not mistaken?

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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:45 am

More properly the aircraft built after 1959 were based on the 720
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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:43 am

Quoting Spruit (Reply 2):
KC-135 is not a 717 derivative but a derivative of the Boeing 367-80 which is the proof of concept for the 707!

The KC-135 civilian name is 717. Yes, I know there's the DC-9 base 717, but Boeing just gave it the name since there was no civilian airliner in there line up with that name. Since the KC-135 was for military uses only, Boeing did have a civilian 717. To put a long story short the KC-135 was the original 717.
 
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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:56 am

The 707 derivative KC-135's are designated KC-137.
 
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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:43 pm

Quoting Spruit (Reply 2):
KC-135 is not a 717 derivative but a derivative of the Boeing 367-80 which is the proof of concept for the 707!

As 747400sp points out, the KC-135 is Boeing Model number 717. Both the 707 and the 717 are derived from the 367-80. The 707 has a wider fuselage due to customer demand and competitive pressure (from the DC-8) to put in 3-3 seating instead of 2-3.
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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:42 pm

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 4):
To put a long story short the KC-135 was the original 717

Thanks, I never knew that!  Smile

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RE: Do KC-135 Land Flater And Lower Than 707's?

Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:08 am

Quoting Spruit (Reply 7):
Quoting 747400sp (Reply 4):
To put a long story short the KC-135 was the original 717

Thanks, I never knew that!

If you're interested in Boeing history, "Boeing - Planemaker to the World" by Redding and Yenne is a good introduction. It's about 10 years so a bit dated, but it covers civil and military from the founding of the company.

http://www.amazon.com/Boeing-Planema...04-0861965-8185516?ie=UTF8&s=books
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