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High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:13 am

Not sure that this belongs in Tech Ops, but I'm afraid to wade into the CivAv forum... But, I've got another question that came up a work today...

How is high density or high value cargo transported? Are there special containers? For example if you were carrying gold bricks or something very heavy, would they just get loaded on a standard palette?

The gold bricks option also generated some further discussion about a) protecting against theft during transit, and b) crash protection - you wouldn't want something that dense breaking free.

Setting insurance aside, you also might not want folks walking off with gold bricks from a crash site, eh? So I can see where you might use a special container, like those used for radioactive materials, that's designed to withstand the crash impact forces.

Or, maybe nobody cares that much, and they just insure the shipment accordingly...
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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:26 am

I think you might have answered one of your questions with another question. The fact that you are transporting something that valuable and that heavey is a deterant to putting it in the air. Due to the weight limits and the insurance value.

That is just my onpion, not a professional be any throw of the word.

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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:40 am

Quoting 3DPlanes (Thread starter):
How is high density or high value cargo transported?

Basically the same way as regular cargo.

Quoting 3DPlanes (Thread starter):
Are there special containers? For example if you were carrying gold bricks or something very heavy, would they just get loaded on a standard palette?

No special containers that I know of. All we make sure is that the density per inch/foot/meter/etc is within the specs of the pallet/container and the aircraft. If needed, we use skids or other loading devices to spread the load across a larger area.

Quoting 3DPlanes (Thread starter):
a) protecting against theft during transit,

Always by sealing the container and verification of the seal numbers during transit and at the destination.

Quoting 3DPlanes (Thread starter):
b) crash protection - you wouldn't want something that dense breaking free.

Proper tie down procedures are supposed to be used to prevent cargo from shifting.
 
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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:00 am

With some valuable cargoes a special security firm will escort the cargo and wait on the apron until the a/c departs.

On arrival there will be antoher team waiting for the a/c.

It is usually conidered safer to transport valuable cargo by air as it is safe whilst the aircraft is in the air, I would imagane that the insurance is cheaper for air freight (against sureface freight) off-setting the extra cost of transport by air.

There have been some high value thefts at LHR including, in the 80's, £26,000.00 worth of gold bars-the biggest robbery in the UK at the time.
 
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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:57 am

Quoting 3DPlanes (Thread starter):
How is high density or high value cargo transported? Are there special containers? For example if you were carrying gold bricks or something very heavy, would they just get loaded on a standard palette?

It's handled just like any other cargo. I have flown bank notes (currency) which is quite dense, and it's all shrink wrapped on a pallet. I've flown antique porcelain worth millions of euros that was just in a container and that was it.

Quoting N215AZ (Reply 1):
The fact that you are transporting something that valuable and that heavey is a deterant to putting it in the air.

I don't think so. Shipping via air is the quickest way. It's most likely the most secure way. Once the shipment is loaded on the aircraft, it's pretty secure.
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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:29 am

Swissair Flight 111 carried a Picasso painting worth $1.5 million, 110 lbs of cash, 2 lbs diamonds, 10 lbs jewelry, and 4 lbs Swiss watches. The painting was treated as ordinary cargo. The other valuables were in a safe that probably survived. The people on board didn't survive. The "valuables" really had no value compared to the other losses.
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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:05 am

I've assisted in the offloaded a TVR Tuscan racing car before... Valued around £250k

Quoting 3DPlanes (Thread starter):
How is high density or high value cargo transported?


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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:05 pm

We have carried stuff that's had an escort all the way.
 
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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:31 pm

KInd of funny, but years we had regular loads of viagra (at least 500kg/flt). They were delivered a/c side in an armoured car.
 
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RE: High Density And/or Valuble Cargo

Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:10 pm

Quoting 744rules (Reply 8):
KInd of funny, but years we had regular loads of viagra (at least 500kg/flt). They were delivered a/c side in an armoured car.

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