futureualpilot
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Airline Crew question regarding route coverage

Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:57 am

Hey all, just a quick couple of questions. Do airline crews normally see the entire system? Lets say you are a pilot/FA based out of LAX. Would you only see destinations your airline serves to/from LAX, or could you end up going anywhere (aircraft depending of course)? Does it vary by airline? What are the different airlines like?

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Airline Crew question regarding route coverage

Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:12 am

Quoting Futureualpilot (Thread starter):
Do airline crews normally see the entire system? Lets say you are a pilot/FA based out of LAX. Would you only see destinations your airline serves to/from LAX, or could you end up going anywhere (aircraft depending of course)? Does it vary by airline? What are the different airlines like?

Every airline is different, at least a little different in almost everything, so my answer is limited to AA. At AA, the Simplification Plan eliminated many of the multiple types of acft that visit certain stations to save $$$. No S80 ever visits MIA. No 738 ever visits ORD, BOS, SFO, RNO, SJC and a host of other cities. If you are holding a "domestic" bid status, you only fly North America. If you hold "international" bid status, you primarily fly only international trips to the division your base flys to/from (i.e. LAX 777I pilots only fly NRT & LHR; MIA 777I pilots only fly Atlantic & S.America).
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RE: Airline Crew Question Regarding Route Coverage

Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:08 pm

Quoting AAR90 (Reply 1):
No S80 ever visits MIA. No 738 ever visits ORD, BOS, SFO, RNO, SJC and a host of other cities. If you are holding a "domestic" bid status, you only fly North America. If you hold "international" bid status, you primarily fly only international trips to the division your base flys to/from (i.e. LAX 777I pilots only fly NRT & LHR; MIA 777I pilots only fly Atlantic & S.America).

Thank you for your answer, my uncle flies for AA on the 757/767 (domestic) out of MIA as well, but usually bids the same trips to keep his QOL as high as he can, which is part of why I asked. The other reason was just to know if crews have to bid different bases to see different parts of the country, or if they could stay at one base their whole career but still see the entire system (at least domestically).
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RE: Airline Crew Question Regarding Route Coverage

Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:49 pm

At WN we see it all no matter where we are based.
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RE: Airline Crew Question Regarding Route Coverage

Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:01 pm

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 3):
At WN we see it all no matter where we are based.

i read somewhere that WN crews do not get sent on "out-and-backs" but instead are given just multi day legs that take them around the entire system. is that still true? the article i read is a few years old by now.


i work with a six carriers on a day-to-day, and my station is a crew base for three of those. depending on the airline, some crews fly only out-and-back trips and some crews are sent on 3 or 4 day legs. i guess seniority also comes into play. for those carriers that do not base thier crews at my station i really can't say much about thier scheduling structure, as thier crews bring the airplane in and take it back out.
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RE: Airline Crew Question Regarding Route Coverage

Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:51 pm

Where I'm at, we see most of the system. Some of the lines (the sequence of flights you are assigned to fly) out of my base do not go to some of the destinations of the other base. However, when crews become scarce, it isn't uncommon to be temporarily based out of the other hub.

Short answer, eventually we see all the destinations, but tend to go to the same places more often.

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RE: Airline Crew Question Regarding Route Coverage

Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:40 pm

Quoting Cancidas (Reply 4):

i read somewhere that WN crews do not get sent on "out-and-backs" but instead are given just multi day legs that take them around the entire system. is that still true? the article i read is a few years old by now.

Well as far as being "sent out" that would only spply to when one was sitting reserve and no, scheduling DOES send us out on out-and-backs or "turns" as we call them. If you're not on reserve you are holding a line and you're responsible for what is already on your board and you already know where you're going. In this case we also have turns you can bid on and pick up. I've never known it to be different.

Some of the more popular turns out of MDW are MDW-LAX, MDW-SEA, MDW-LAS, MDW-RSW...and maybe a few others. Reason being that they pay really well and are productive.
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