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DC-10-30ER Question

Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:40 am

Hi folks,

I was wondering whether NW has kept the DC-10-30ERs they have bought from SR and TG in that configuration or whether they have "de-converted" them to DC-10-30s with a higher MTOW ? And thus, I'm wondering the same with Omni Air International in case NW kept the trijets as ERs.

I tried to figure it out, but can't find two sources that say the same thing. I've also tried a search here on A.net but I began to squint after reading through many older threads.

So, perhaps someone from these airlines, or knowing an older thread could help.

Thanks.

Cheers.

OW

[Edited 2007-04-06 22:02:27]
 
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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:40 am

You might want to check with someone from ATA. They just bought some of the old birds from NW, both with and without the tanks.
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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:15 pm

Quoting Avioniker (Reply 1):
You might want to check with someone from ATA. They just bought some of the old birds from NW, both with and without the tanks.

As I understand it, TZ will not take the NW DC-10s. Since they just bought both WO and NA, they no longer need the DC-10s. The WO DC-10-30 and MD-11s will replace the TZ L-1011-500s, and they also have access to the NA B-767-300ERs.
 
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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:40 am

TZ only has one of the ex-SR -30ERs which is aircraft N226NW (now N701TZ). We are deactivating the aft aux tank as we do not need the extra range. Their is a Douglas procedure for deactivating it. However, this tank was installed during manufacture and cannot be easily removed, so will stay in place.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
As I understand it, TZ will not take the NW DC-10s. Since they just bought both WO and NA, they no longer need the DC-10s. The WO DC-10-30 and MD-11s will replace the TZ L-1011-500s, and they also have access to the NA B-767-300ERs.

Absolutely FALSE. Yes, we still need the DC-10s and yes, they are still coming. We do not yet own World Air Holdings. It is a purchase agreement that must go through shareholder and government approvals and should close in the July 2007 timeframe. TZ needs widebodies now as we have existing commitments. Any changes related to the World acquisition this year into next will not happen as fast as you state. Even after it is completed we will not be able to use each others airplanes for each others contracts as we will remain separate entities. The only way for this to happen is if aircraft are transferred to anothers Ops Spec or the airlines are merged. Also, World and TZ are in separate AMC contract groupings which cannot crossover.
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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:15 am

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 3):
TZ only has one of the ex-SR -30ERs which is aircraft N226NW (now N701TZ). We are deactivating the aft aux tank as we do not need the extra range. Their is a Douglas procedure for deactivating it. However, this tank was installed during manufacture and cannot be easily removed, so will stay in place.

Thanks for that. I realised only after my post that TZ was getting a single -30ER. In fact, that aircraft was built as a -30. But when SR later ordered two -30ERs, it also made sure that the latest two aircraft delivered to its fleet were upgraded to the same standard.
 
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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:34 pm

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 3):
TZ only has one of the ex-SR -30ERs which is aircraft N226NW (now N701TZ). We are deactivating the aft aux tank as we do not need the extra range.

Not a bad idea, I worked on all of the NW -30s while they had them, and the aft aux tanks could be very problematic. If you use the aft aux tanks often they work well, but the occasional usage just brings on problems.......mainly with fuel line leakage. I chased more fuel line, and shroud leaks than I care to remember. I do miss those -30s, they were fine airplanes, I enjoyed working on them.
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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:42 pm


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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:26 pm

Here's your very own.

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 3):
TZ only has one of the ex-SR -30ERs which is aircraft N226NW (now N701TZ). We are deactivating the aft aux tank as we do not need the extra range.
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RE: DC-10-30ER Question

Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:36 pm

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 7):
Here's your very own

I have one of those, but thanks anyway.  biggrin 
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