Ratherbflyin
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DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:04 am

I had originally posted this question in the Hobbies section, since my interest in the DC-8-30 stems from flying it in Flight Simulator. However, I have been unable to get an answer there, so I thought I would try again here. I have been searching for a few weeks now for the ICAO code for the DC-8-30 aircraft. The best I can come up with is DC8H, but that appears to be referring to the entire line of DC-8 aircraft.

Does anyone know where I might be able to locate the code for the actual -30 model? I'm not positive, but I think my trouble with finding the code may stem from the fact that none of that model are still flying. At least I cannot locate any examples still flying. Anything that can point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:24 am

The code will be listed in either the SRM or DPS if you can find a copy with the -30 effectivity.
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:16 pm

Can't remember what the type designator was for the -30. But Appendix A of the current version of ATC 7110.65 (rev. R) lists:

DC-8-50 as "DC85"
DC-8-60 as "DC86"
DC-8-70 as "DC87"

So possibly a DC-8-30 was "DC83"? I dunno. Can't remember. Too many intervening margaritas.

Here's a link to ATC 7110.65R:
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic..._traffic_orders/media/7110.65R.pdf
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:54 pm

Thanks for the help! I was unaware of that document G4LASRamper, and I think I'll have to hang onto that. A LOT of information there that I haven't come across before (I'm a bit of a data freak  ashamed  ). I had also come up with the DC85, DC86, and DC87 codes, and had postulated that DC83 may be the one I want, but I don't want to commit to it without something to back it up. Unfortunately that "something" is proving to be annoyingly elusive.

Avioniker, I'm afraid I am not familiar with the terms "SRM" or "DPS." Could you possibly elaborate? Those aren't more $880 books like Jane's All the World's Aircraft that I'm currently drooling over (and putting on my Christmas "yeah-right" wish list), are they?
 
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:19 pm

Quoting Ratherbflyin (Thread starter):
Does anyone know where I might be able to locate the code for the actual -30 model?

I think it would just be DC8 ............ http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/acrtypes.htm

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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:24 am

I had come across that list as well Zeke. Unfortunately it doesn't mention anything prior to the -50 model. There are a handful of options that I could give up and just settle on (DC8H, DC83, DC8), but I'd still like to find out if there is/was a code for the -30 model.  Smile It's one of those things that's going to drive me nuts until I find out what it is.
 
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:27 am

I'm sorry. I thought you were referring to the DAC Fuselage/Wing type code used to designate construction type.
Were you referring to the wake code? If so the -30 precedes the standardization of that system at ICAO so it would most likely be an H as well as all the other 8's.
SRM stands for Structural Repair Manual and DPS stands for Douglas Process Standards. These are (were) books that specified repair and manufacturing details to keep planes in service without bothering the engineering departments of the respective manufacturers every time you ding an airplane.

http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/acrtypes.htm


IATA ICAO Wake
Code Code Manufacturer and Aircraft Type / Model Category
D10 DC10 Douglas DC-10 pax H
D11 DC10 Douglas DC-10-10/15 pax H
D1C DC10 Douglas DC-10-30/40 pax H
D1F DC10 Douglas DC-10 all Freighters H
D1M DC10 Douglas DC-10 all Combi models H
D1X DC10 Douglas DC-10-10 Freighter H
D1Y DC10 Douglas DC-10-30 / 40 Freighters H
D3F DC3 Douglas DC-3 Freighter M
D6F DC6 Douglas DC-6A/B/C Freighter M
D8F n/a Douglas DC-8 all Freighters H
D8L DC86 Douglas DC-8-62 pax H
D8M n/a Douglas DC-8 all Combi models H
D8Q DC87 Douglas DC-8-72 pax H
D8T DC85 Douglas DC-8-50 Freighter H
D8X n/a Douglas DC-8-61 / 62 / 63 Freighters H
D8Y DC87 Douglas DC-8-71 / 72 / 73 Freighters H
DC8 n/a Douglas DC-8 all pax models H
DC9 DC9 Douglas DC-9 all pax models M

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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:15 am

I apologize if I was not clear enough in my original question. I am actually looking for the 4-character ICAO aircraft type identifier (B744 for Boeing 747-400 aircraft, DC86 for DC-8-60 aircraft, etc) ,for the DC-8-30 model. Now you mentioned that the -30 predates the standardization of ICAO's wake code system, so is it possible that there actually is no type code for the -30 either? If that is the case, then I suppose I will have to be content with using the generic DC8H code.
 
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:11 am

As mentioned above with the 7110.65, mine doesnt have anything having to do with a Dc-8-30, only those listed above.

And for everyone, that is the ICAO four letter Aircraft Identification.

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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:20 am

Thanks for the help, everyone. It looks like I'll have to assume that the -30 never had a unique code. Unless of course I can locate a list of codes from the late 60's. That will probably prove to be impossible.
 
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:29 am

Quoting Ratherbflyin (Reply 9):
Thanks for the help, everyone. It looks like I'll have to assume that the -30 never had a unique code. Unless of course I can locate a list of codes from the late 60's. That will probably prove to be impossible.

I have had another look at ICAO DOC 8643 which is the offical register of types (http://www.icao.int/anb/ais/8643/index.cfm)

Seems the DC8 passenger model code has been deleted, so I think the current official code would be ZZZZ with a remark being made on the flight plan /TYPE DC-8-30
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RE: DC-8-30 Icao Code

Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:42 pm

Thanks again Zeke. I was hoping to find the actual code since I have lately been simulating some Pan Am flights from the late 60's, but I'll settle for what you've found. Thanks again everyone, and hopefully I'll be able to answer some questions myself in the future.  Smile

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