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380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:43 am

Hi everyone
This was taken a few days ago near toulouse.Do you think she is running on one engine or is there a problem.
Cheers
Andy
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Hi everyone,This was taken near Toulouse a few days ago.Is she flying on one engine,or do you think she has a problem.Cheers Andy
 
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:06 am

This ain't a contrail, those begin much farther away from the engine, the case that the gear is lowered also makes me suspect that it's a fuel dump. I have no Idea where the fuel-dump valve is located on the A380, but right over the engine outlet is a rather odd place.

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:00 am

I must admit Mario i thought it might be a fuel dump,and it probably is,but what a place to put the valve.lol.
 
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:12 am

Why would she dump over land, as well? This seems to be quite bizarre to me, but then again, I don't know much, haha.

You may want to throw this thread over to Tech/Ops.

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:09 pm

they're just testing the dispersal system for chemtrails...
Probably testing the nozzels one at a time to make sure they all work before trying the entire system as one.
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:03 am

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 3):
Why would she dump over land, as well? This seems to be quite bizarre to me, but then again, I don't know much, haha

Judging by the altitude that this plane appears to be flying (probably over 5,000 ft).. by the time the fuel would reach the ground, it would have dispersed into vapour.

Looks to me like a simple test of something..

Perhaps someone working @ Airbus can elaborate?

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:11 pm

I could have sworn that was a 747-400, but then after a closer look, it is an Airbus.

But honestly it looks like a 747....
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:02 pm

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 3):
Why would she dump over land, as well?

Standard practice as long as you're high enough.
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:26 am

Quoting Jwenting (Reply 4):
they're just testing the dispersal system for chemtrails...

Haha if you look carefully you can see the stonemason logo.
 
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:04 pm

Quoting StevenL (Reply 6):
But honestly it looks like a 747....

It doesn't. The wing is too broad and a bit too far forward to be a 747.
Fuselage seems too wide as well.
Landing gear is down and gear configuration is quite different from a 747.

Quoting Agill (Reply 8):
Haha if you look carefully you can see the stonemason logo.

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:23 am

Quoting Relic (Thread starter):
Hi everyone
This was taken a few days ago near toulouse.Do you think she is running on one engine or is there a problem.
Cheers
Andy

Why start a second thread on exactly the same photo/subject?
380 Engine.Is This A Fuel Dump Or Another Test (by Relic Apr 25 2007 in Tech Ops)

Personally I feel it's just an engine problem. Looks too much like burning engine oil. No too difficult to imagine with a new engine type. Could be a labyrinth seal, bearing scavenge pump, oil line seal, partially plugged breather, etc......

One thing it's not is a fuel dump. The dump nozzle is located in the second from outboard flap track canoe fairing (you would never get certification for a dump nozzle located directly behind an engine).... http://flickr.com/photos/19138132@N00/437592838/ I highly doubt it's a smoke generator for a flight test as they would generally have done this in the flight test area and not close to the airport on final approach in landing configuration. The smoke does look like it's below the flap tip and in the engine exhaust gas path. If it was a test to check flap tip vortices, the smoke would be more defined.

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:07 am

Quoting BoeingFixer (Reply 10):

While most of that was Greek to me, I would have to agree. I cant imagine them running the plane on one engine, but weirder things have happened. An oil burn makes the most sense of all the other suggestions here.

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:50 am

Good evening.

Aren't the landing gears lowered? Wouldn't this indicate that the plane is not so high in the air?
Could it hence be that the Contrail - if it is one - we see is generated by a plane high in the air and hidden to our eyes by the wing?

Just a suggestion.

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:21 am

Quoting Ferroviarius (Reply 12):
Aren't the landing gears lowered? Wouldn't this indicate that the plane is not so high in the air?
Could it hence be that the Contrail - if it is one - we see is generated by a plane high in the air and hidden to our eyes by the wing?

In testing, they may have the gear down at higher than normal altitude.

Contrails are normally generated at higher altitudes but in some conditions they can be generated at any altitude.
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:19 am

Quoting Ferroviarius (Reply 12):
Could it hence be that the Contrail - if it is one - we see is generated by a plane high in the air and hidden to our eyes by the wing?



Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 13):
Contrails are normally generated at higher altitudes but in some conditions they can be generated at any altitude.

I think Ferroviarius was trying to say it could be a contrail from a higher flying aircraft that is hidden from view by the A380 wing.

I still go by my theory in reply 10 as a contrail ot high altitude wouldn't difuse as quickly as this one does.

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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:14 am

Quoting BoeingFixer (Reply 14):
I think Ferroviarius was trying to say it could be a contrail from a higher flying aircraft that is hidden from view by the A380 wing.

Ooooooh.
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:18 am

I'll definitely agree with BoeingFixer. From the blueish color of that thing, it's gotta be oil...

I haven't heard anything concerning engine problems or inflight shutdowns during certification (BTW are those the EA or RR?), but then I doubt we'd hear anything about it anyway. When flying with uncertified engines, that's the kind of thing you can expect, especially considering those engines take a serious beating during proving flights.
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting Francoflier (Reply 16):
(BTW are those the EA or RR?),

Looks like the RR nacelles to me.

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John
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:04 am

I think this photo gives us the answer, for the smoke/contrail.

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=615197

What they are using this to test is another question.
 
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:05 am

Quoting BoeingFixer (Reply 10):

Hi
just replying to this quote.
This thread was initially in the photography forum.ANET removed it and put it in here after i had already started a new thread in tech/ops.Hence two threads on the same topic
 
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RE: 380 Engine...Running On One Engine Or Problems

Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting Overcast (Reply 18):
I think this photo gives us the answer, for the smoke/contrail.

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=615197

What they are using this to test is another question.

First I've ever heard of a smoke producer being placed in the engine exhaust cone. Looks more like the first start of a new engine burning out the inhibiting oil or they could be trying to find out the malfunction that produced the original in-flight picture.

Cheers,

John
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