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B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 9:26 pm

Hey there,

I search but i couldn't find if this has been previously posted so if that's the case, please excuse me.

Boeing 777 maximum takeoff speed abort brake test

The title says it all!

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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 10:02 pm

A neat bit of footage from PBSs 777 development special, 21st Century Jet, that aired some 10 or 11 eleven years ago.

Numerous threads on that special in the database.
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Sat May 19, 2007 10:39 pm

That is from the 1996 TV series called "21st Century Jet - The Building of the 777". The actor Peter Coyote is reading the script. It was quite shocking that the American "Public Broadcasting Corporation", you know, the people who brought us Kermit the Frog and Mister Rogers, would produce such a fine program about an airliner. The series was in five one hour parts and can be easily found on VHS tapes. It's well worth the price!
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 10:46 pm

$750,000 for 12 tyres... ouch! thats $62,500 per tyre. I know they need to be strong, handle high speeds and handle impacting the runway and all but thats still a lot of money! About twice what I was expecting them to cost.

Interesting vid! They sure do heat up a lot alright.
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 11:25 pm

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 3):
$750,000 for 12 tyres... ouch! thats $62,500 per tyre. I know they need to be strong, handle high speeds and handle impacting the runway and all but thats still a lot of money! About twice what I was expecting them to cost.

The wheels and brakes were destroyed as well and I consider the likelyhood high that the landing gear structures and systems were also damaged. Look at the big picture and the costs aren't so enormous......
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 11:33 pm

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 4):
The wheels and brakes were destroyed as well and I consider the likelyhood high that the landing gear structures and systems were also damaged. Look at the big picture and the costs aren't so enormous......

oh for sure... tyres are just the start of the costs when this sortof thing happens... I was just a little surprised by how much each one is however.
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 11:41 pm

I really enjoyed this program, as well as the joint task fighter competition documentary.

Knowing Boeing, I expect that film crews will have carte blanche access to the 787 development program as well.

I would really love to see a warts & all documentary about the A380. Assuming that plane will go on to be a big success, it would be fascinating to get an insider look at the birthing pains.
 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 11:43 pm

Does anyone know where that test was performed? They mentioned a 15k foot runway, so I'd imagine it can't be up in the Seattle area.
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sat May 19, 2007 11:51 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 7):
Does anyone know where that test was performed? They mentioned a 15k foot runway, so I'd imagine it can't be up in the Seattle area.

Probably Edwards AFB. Looks like desert in the video.
 
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Sun May 20, 2007 5:22 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 7):
I would really love to see a warts & all documentary about the A380. Assuming that plane will go on to be a big success, it would be fascinating to get an insider look at the birthing pains.

There are very interesting videos from the A380 test programme on youtube:

Brake Test


Blade Off Test


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Sun May 20, 2007 5:50 am

Does anyone have the A340 brake test vid? I think it was a -600. Now that video...  eek 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 5:56 am

Quoting Md11sdf (Reply 2):
It was quite shocking that the American "Public Broadcasting Corporation", you know, the people who brought us Kermit the Frog and Mister Rogers, would produce such a fine program about an airliner.

Shocking? Really? Do you only equate PBS to childrens programming? PBS has produced quite a few quality programs over the years that have nothing to do with childrens interests. It is my understanding that childrens programming is only a small part of what PBS is about.
 
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Sun May 20, 2007 6:29 am

Quoting Sammyk (Reply 11):
Shocking? Really? Do you only equate PBS to childrens programming? PBS has produced quite a few quality programs over the years that have nothing to do with childrens interests. It is my understanding that childrens programming is only a small part of what PBS is about.

PBS is the network that has shows Nova, one of the longest-running and best documentary programs on television. Maybe it's on opposite WWE Smackdown?
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 6:50 am

Wow, those A380 test videos were pretty amazing. Thanks for sharing.
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 7:31 am

Quoting Kalakaua (Reply 10):
Does anyone have the A340 brake test vid? I think it was a -600. Now that video...   

Yeah, does anyone know where the A340-600 brake test (FAILURE) is? Pretty scary stuff with all those tires exploding and the gear catching on fire.

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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 7:34 am

Quoting Jeffrito (Reply 6):
I would really love to see a warts & all documentary about the A380. Assuming that plane will go on to be a big success, it would be fascinating to get an insider look at the birthing pains.

There was a great 6-part documentary on German/French TV channel ARTE.
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 7:51 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 5):
I was just a little surprised by how much each one is however.

I'm sure the cost mentioned in the video covered all the components, not just the tires...
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Vi

Sun May 20, 2007 8:17 am

The A340 video is no longer available in Youtube.com

This is what it says when i tried to open the links i found:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Airbus

Although there is this marvelous set of video links, just a sample below:

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The rest is at:
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Vi

Sun May 20, 2007 9:19 am

Does anyone have the A340 brake test vid? I think it was a -600. Now that video...  eek 

Quoting DeC (Reply 17):
The A340 video is no longer available in Youtube.com

This is what it says when i tried to open the links i found:

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Airbus

Poppycock!! Yet Airbus has no issue with the an apparent "successful" A380 brake test, evacuation tests, as well as other promotional videos?! Whatever Airbus.  Yeah sure
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Vi

Sun May 20, 2007 10:01 am

Quoting Kalakaua (Reply 10):

Here you go A340 Brake Test, good thing i saved it a while back before it was pulled.. I'm in a bit of a hurry so its on sendspace 20MB .FLV

http://www.sendspace.com/file/kgm2g0

Enjoy

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Sun May 20, 2007 11:10 am

Quoting Fokker_One (Reply 19):
Here you go A340 Brake Test, good thing i saved it a while back before it was pulled.. I'm in a bit of a hurry so its on sendspace 20MB .FLV

What program reads .FLVs? I can't open it.....
Nevermind...I was able to open it....

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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 11:25 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 20):
What program reads .FLVs? I can't open it..

It's a Macromedia Flash video. You need the latest version of Flash installed to view it
 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 11:36 am

Here's a vid of the 777 wing loading test, courtesy of fellow A.netter N231YE.

 
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Sun May 20, 2007 11:58 am

Quoting Oceanic (Reply 21):

It's a Macromedia Flash video. You need the latest version of Flash installed to view it

I installed the latest version of Flash and I still can't open it.  Sad
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Vi

Sun May 20, 2007 12:19 pm

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 1):



Quoting Md11sdf (Reply 2):
That is from the 1996 TV series called "21st Century Jet - The Building of the 777". The actor Peter Coyote is reading the script. It was quite shocking that the American "Public Broadcasting Corporation", you know, the people who brought us Kermit the Frog and Mister Rogers, would produce such a fine program about an airliner. The series was in five one hour parts and can be easily found on VHS tapes. It's well worth the price!



Quoting Sammyk (Reply 11):
Shocking? Really? Do you only equate PBS to childrens programming? PBS has produced quite a few quality programs over the years that have nothing to do with childrens interests. It is my understanding that childrens programming is only a small part of what PBS is about.



Quoting ContnlEliteCMH (Reply 12):
PBS is the network that has shows Nova, one of the longest-running and best documentary programs on television.

I agree that PBS produces some of the finest programming on television, I would like to clarify something.
The footage in the first post was indeed taken from the program "21st Century Jet." However, this series was NOT produced by PBS. This series was produced in 1995 by Skyscraper Productions for KCTS/Seattle and Channel 4, London.

I am reading it right off the dvd box that I have in my collection.

That being said, it is a wonderful series that should be a must in any aviation enthusiast's collection.

Quoting ContinentalFan (Reply 8):
Probably Edwards AFB. Looks like desert in the video.

Yes, the testing was done at Edwards.

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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 12:23 pm

Quoting ContinentalFan (Reply 8):
Probably Edwards AFB. Looks like desert in the video.

Correct. Back then, EDW was the only place with the over 15,000 ft long runway mentioned in the vid. I wonder though if Boeing (and back in the day also Douglas and Lockheed) always do the max energy RTO tests at EDW or if they go somewhere else depending on the aircraft being tested.
 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 12:26 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 7):
Does anyone know where that test was performed? They mentioned a 15k foot runway, so I'd imagine it can't be up in the Seattle area.



Quoting ContinentalFan (Reply 8):
Probably Edwards AFB. Looks like desert in the video.

The announcer states that the runway is 15000 ft long. And In the video, you can see the threshold markings as they exit the runway after the RTO. It's RWY 22/04.

Edwards AFB (KEDW) has a 15000 ft runway: 22/04.

So I agree w/ ContinentalFan.

But without knowing the runway length, I would have guessed either Moses Lake Grant County International (MWH) or Glasgow Industrial Airport, MT (07MT). Boeing owns Glasgow Industrial, and has operated at Moses Lake for many years.

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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 12:43 pm

Quoting Md11sdf (Reply 2):
It was quite shocking that the American "Public Broadcasting Corporation", you know, the people who brought us Kermit the Frog and Mister Rogers, would produce such a fine program about an airliner.

Sure! I'm even more shocked that they use that Disney orchestra music throughout. Let's hear the engines churn and the brakes hiss! What we see is dramatic enough without the silly music turned up.

At least we could hear the tires explode on the A340 test. No music made that great 'reality tv'.
 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 12:59 pm

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 24):
I would like to clarify something.
The footage in the first post was indeed taken from the program "21st Century Jet." However, this series was NOT produced by PBS. This series was produced in 1995 by Skyscraper Productions for KCTS/Seattle

KCTS is a PBS station. Many/most of the PBS shows are produced by the local stations and distributed throughout the network.
 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 3:43 pm

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 5):



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 5):
oh for sure... tyres are just the start of the costs when this sortof thing happens... I was just a little surprised by how much each one is however.

The quote from the video is "All 12 wheels were destroyed at a cost of 3/4 of a million dollars". Nothing about cost of just the tires.
 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 4:18 pm

What is most impressive to me is the developments made in the overall flammability (or lack thereof) in the tires, brake, wheel, and strut assemblies since the days of the 747. I recall footage of the 747's max braking test (IIRC an E-4B to USAF specs) and there being a raging fire consuming all four main gear bogies. The emphasis at that time was developing effective skin cladding to shield the airframe itself (and more importantly, the center fuel tank) from fire. While this is still a primary concern, it seems that progress has been made in developing the main gear using far less flammable materials (and perhaps more heat resistant surfaces) to avoid a large fire in the first place.

I for one am looking forward to seeing the 787 tests later this summer/fall.
 
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 5:46 pm

Quoting Brons2 (Reply 23):
Quoting Oceanic (Reply 21):

It's a Macromedia Flash video. You need the latest version of Flash installed to view it

I installed the latest version of Flash and I still can't open it. Sad

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Sun May 20, 2007 6:34 pm

Quoting Kalakaua (Reply 18):
Does anyone have the A340 brake test vid? I think it was a -600. Now that video...

Watched it...

I'm ready to stand corrected, but the fire crew's performace didn't look overly well to me, or?
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Sun May 20, 2007 7:09 pm

Quoting Fokker_One (Reply 19):
Here you go A340 Brake Test, good thing i saved it a while back before it was pulled.. I'm in a bit of a hurry so its on sendspace 20MB .FLV

Sweet! Thanks a whole lot!!!

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 32):

I'm ready to stand corrected, but the fire crew's performace didn't look overly well to me, or?

I have no idea on the procedures on what the fire crew was supposed to do (besides the five minute rule), but I know that test was a failure. Nerve-racking, wasn't it?!
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Sun May 20, 2007 9:01 pm

Quoting Md11sdf (Reply 2):
That is from the 1996 TV series called "21st Century Jet - The Building of the 777". The actor Peter Coyote is reading the script. It was quite shocking that the American "Public Broadcasting Corporation", you know, the people who brought us Kermit the Frog and Mister Rogers, would produce such a fine program about an airliner. The series was in five one hour parts and can be easily found on VHS tapes. It's well worth the price!

I believe this show was (in part at least) produced by channel 4 in the UK. I remember watching the show back in the day and still have it recorded. Its funny listening to the narrator in the above clip as the version shown in the UK was narrated by a totally different guy with a British accent!
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Mon May 21, 2007 10:34 am

Quoting DeC (Reply 31):
Go to http://filehippo.com/download_klite_codec_pack/ and download the latest version of this excellent codec pack; it will also install windows media player classic with a plug in add on to play .flv files. You won't need anything else, just install this.

Thanks! That worked perfectly.

What blew up, anyways? Everything looked to be going ok at first and then....multiple explosions at each gear.

Those firefighers looked like dunces. They needed more water pressure.
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RE: B777 Maximum Takeoff Speed Abort Brake Test Video

Mon May 21, 2007 11:27 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 14):

Yeah, does anyone know where the A340-600 brake test (FAILURE) is? Pretty scary stuff with all those tires exploding and the gear catching on fire.

The pilots going "what about the airstairs?" about a dozen times was a nice touch.

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