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AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:03 am



Does anyone know where this airport is? That looks more hairy than Kaitak, and the runway looks FAR shorter. That pilot doesn't waste a meter of runway, does he? Breathtaking!

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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:31 am

Tegucigalpa - Toncontin International (TGU / MHTG), in Honduras:


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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:48 am

He comes in a bit low for that approach, and finishes by landing slightly in the displaced threshold.
 
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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:24 am

Check out this article:

http://www.airliners.net/articles/read.main?id=8

5,400-odd feet of runway past the displaced threshold. That touchdown point is a little misleading - it's only 500-odd feet past the piano keys (unlike the typical 1000 feet at US airports). Looks like the airport is around 3300 feet elevation as well, with a significant downslope sloping down away from the approach end. Google Earth makes it about 3300 feet elevation at the approach end piano keys, and 3236 feet at the far end.

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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:57 am

Wonderful. Tech-ops never fails to bring good info to bear. Thanks.
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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:56 pm

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 2):
He comes in a bit low for that approach, and finishes by landing slightly in the displaced threshold

Suppose you have flown this approach and done better?
 
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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting Movingtin (Reply 5):
Suppose you have flown this approach and done better?

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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:55 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 2):
He comes in a bit low for that approach, and finishes by landing slightly in the displaced threshold.

Hehe well it must be tricky enough just to line up.

I believe the threshold is displaced due to terrain.

And yes, Kai Tak was "easier", though it was plagued by crosswinds.
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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:58 am

I know that foreshortening makes the runway look, er, short, but wow. Wonderful photography.

Incidentally, YouTube now links other videos (along the bottom) once the video you've linked has finished playing. Has anyone looked at the one on the far right, ("Crazy Landing") where a VERY unconventional technique is used to bring down a recalcitrant gear leg? It's the one with the T-tail prop and has "M90.ORG" in the top left.

Actually, I'll just link it;

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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:34 am

Quoting Movingtin (Reply 5):

Suppose you have flown this approach and done better?

I wasn't saying it in that manner, but thanks anyways. What I was getting at is that's what made the approach look even more spectacular (in the view of the people standing on that little hillside).

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 7):
I believe the threshold is displaced due to terrain.

Exactly what I was getting at... hence why those people on the hill with the camera damn near had skid marks on their foreheads.

I wasn't ripping on the crew at all, although I'd hope they'd keep it just a hair higher if it were night time or IFR.
 
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RE: AA 757 Approach And Landing-- Where?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:18 am

I spent some time at Tegucigalpa way back when. This was fun to watch with DC-6s and Connies too. The planes I flew in/out were a good deal less dramatic. It was the only place I ever saw where everybody on the airport turned out on the ramp to watch all airline arrivals and departures. You take off in the same direction (northish) if possible because, well, can you imagine trying to climb UP that hillside with an engine out?

The far end of the runway, IIRC drops off into the river. Pretty rugged.

At the time I was there, there were three NDBs within a half mile or so of airport center and NO instrument approach.

The highlight of my stays there (apart from rum and coke at the O Henry Bar) was watching a V-of-3 Honduran Airforce C-47s take off down that runway.
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