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767 Variants

Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:33 pm

What are the different variants of the B767. Also what are the different ranges for each variant.
 
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RE: 767 Variants

Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:31 pm

767-200 - 5,200 nm (9,400 km) transatlantic
767-200ER - 6,590 nm(12,200 km)transpacific
767-300 - 5,230 nm (9,700 km) transatlantic
767-300ER - 5,975 nm (11,065 km) transpacific
767-300F - 3,255 nm (6,025 km) transcontinental
767-400ER - 5,625 nm (10,415 km)transpacific

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_767
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RE: 767 Variants

Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:03 pm

How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?
 
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RE: 767 Variants

Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:07 pm

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/airports/plan_manuals.html

only place you need to go for info. Be aware that many of the documents have english -> metric conversion errors in some places, so either just use the english numbers or double check the conversion before using. All boeing planes are done in english units so assume those are correct.
 
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RE: 767 Variants

Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:14 pm

Quoting 8B775ZQ (Reply 2):
How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?

Same fuel tanks, smaller (lighter) plane
 
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RE: 767 Variants

Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:16 pm

Quoting 8B775ZQ (Reply 2):
How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?

Yes. The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range. The raked wingtips on the 764 compensate but not all the way

If you look at most aircraft, the stretches tend to have shorter range, all other things being equal. However, a stretch has more room for ventral fuel tanks.
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RE: 767 Variants

Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:35 am

Quoting 8B775ZQ (Reply 2):
How is it that the 767-200ER manages to have more range than the 763, 763ER and 764? Is it that these planes are much heavier than the 762ER?

It seems to me, though, that 763ER's are used on longer stage lengths than the 762ER. AC has both of the type, but the 762ER mostly flies within the domestic system. Their longest routes (the nearly 4,900 nm YVR-PVG and the 5,000+ nm YYZ-TLV) are operated by 763ER.
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RE: 767 Variants

Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:55 am

Quoting Acey (Reply 6):
It seems to me, though, that 763ER's are used on longer stage lengths than the 762ER. AC has both of the type, but the 762ER mostly flies within the domestic system. Their longest routes (the nearly 4,900 nm YVR-PVG and the 5,000+ nm YYZ-TLV) are operated by 763ER.

Sure, but this is more of an operator thing. They may need the 300 for capacity and the ER version for range. Even at 5000nm you are not close to max range for the 763ER.

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RE: 767 Variants

Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:27 am

Quoting Acey (Reply 6):
It seems to me, though, that 763ER's are used on longer stage lengths than the 762ER. AC has both of the type, but the 762ER mostly flies within the domestic system. Their longest routes (the nearly 4,900 nm YVR-PVG and the 5,000+ nm YYZ-TLV) are operated by 763ER.

For one, the 767-200s generally are older (minus the case of CO). DL, for example, used to fly the 767-200 but it was a non-ER version. TWA and American used to fly their 762ERs transatlantic (AA even subs-in a 762ER on occasion). CO doesn't have any 767-300ERs to fly their translant and transpacific flights, so its divided up between the -200ER and -400ER. LOT and Malev fly their 762ERs transpacific pretty regularly, as does US Airways, Aeromexico, Air Canada, Maxjet, Silverjet, and others.


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RE: 767 Variants

Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:39 pm

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range.

Is it exactly the same wing mounted for both, 767-200 and 767-300?
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RE: 767 Variants

Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:10 pm

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 9):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range.

Is it exactly the same wing mounted for both, 767-200 and 767-300?

It may have some heavier gauge structural members in places to handle the increased weight, but the design and mold lines should be identical.

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RE: 767 Variants

Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:48 pm

Quoting SKY1 (Reply 9):
Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 5):
The same wing mounted on a heavier airframe tends to give shorter range.

Is it exactly the same wing mounted for both, 767-200 and 767-300?

As Tdscanuck says, it is the same airfoil wise, but may be heavier. The 764 has the same wing + the raked wingtips.

The same wing thing within a type is pretty normal. Some exceptions would be the 321 (double slotted flaps instead of single slotted) and the ERJ (winglets on the XR). Still, basically the same wing.

Wings are expensive to design and manufacturers want to get maximum mileage out of them.
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RE: 767 Variants

Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:54 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 8):
LOT and Malev fly their 762ERs transpacific pretty regularly, as does US Airways, Aeromexico, Air Canada, Maxjet, Silverjet, and others.

I believe AC has only used the 763ER on transpacific routes, not the 762ER.
 
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RE: 767 Variants

Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:22 am

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 8):
LOT and Malev fly their 762ERs transpacific pretty regularly, as does US Airways, Aeromexico, Air Canada, Maxjet, Silverjet, and others

TransPacific or transAtlantic? I didn't think that US Airways has any destinations in Asia (but could easily be mistaken).

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