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Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:55 am

Just curious, do commercial flights fly over Hurricanes or do they have go around them, or cancel flights till the hurricane moves out of the normal flight path? For example if the there is a hurricane in the Caribbean along the flight path to South America do the flights on that path have to be cancelled , diverted or can the planes fly high enough over the hurricane?
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:10 pm

No.....their cell wall height is far higher then a commercial aircraft flies.....
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:44 pm

Typically they will fly around strong storms (T-storms too) or divert if the storm is over/near their destination. Obviously, if the weather is long-lasting, they will cancel. There was a FedEx video that illustrated this perfectly, as a bank of flights went around a large storm system near MEM...was a GREAT video! Would like to set that as a screen saver...FXRamper, you have access to that?

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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:54 pm

Just following up, typical T-storm cloud heights are between 40,000-50,000 feet, with some "overshooting tops" above that. Most commercial aircraft do not fly above FL410 (although some biz jets can get to FL450). I would assume (perhaps incorrectly) that with the severity of the storms imbedded in a hurrican that the cloud tops would be towards the upper end, although one poster made mention that the GIV that NOAA uses flys over at FL450...

Anyways, just wanted to clarify. Info was from USA Today's weather questions.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:09 pm

I dont know for certain, but the pilots try to make the flight as comfortable as they can for the pax. Even if they could fly through the middle of a hurricane, im sure the ride would be anything but comfortable. So more than likely they would go completely around it.

I did see a video where a plane was flown through a hurricane by scientists who wanted to study it, so im positive it can be done.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:13 pm

I did a local flight in Taiwan last summer where we landed just 30 minutes prior to Songshan airport being closed by the immenent arrival of a typhoon.

As I recall, it was 5 in the evening and the typhoon was off the starboard side of the plane lit brilliantly by the setting sun. The altitude of the cloud was mind-boggling, towering over us even at 33 000ft. (It was in the distance so granted hard to judge.) But it was magnificent. But even at that distance, it was a VERY bumpy and a little scary landing in an a320. Was glad to reach the gate!
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:15 pm

Quoting TCFC424 (Reply 2):
There was a FedEx video that illustrated this perfectly, as a bank of flights went around a large storm system near MEM...was a GREAT video! Would like to set that as a screen saver...FXRamper, you have access to that?

Is this the video you mentioned?  Wink

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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:21 pm

Planes do fly over severe weather and tropical weather events, though I doubt they regularly fly through them. Back around 1998-1999, I was flying SJU-BOS and we flew over a hurricane that was churning below us in the Atlantic. We had to go up to 41,000 feet, pushing the service ceiling for the 757. I'll never forget it because, at that altitude, you could actually see the curvature of the earth! It was incredible!
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:42 pm

HAHAHA!!! That video made me laugh sooooo hard!!! Love it!!!  laughing   crackup 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:46 pm

Quoting N751PR (Reply 6):
Is this the video you mentioned?

Well, that basically happens all the times, pilots do avoid TS, so radar vectors and no SID or STAR at that time.
Great video though!
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:22 pm

The day Hurricane Rita made landfall in New Orleans I was flying STT - SJU - DFW on AA. When we left SJU the captain said due to the fact that the storm was directly in our way, we'd have to take a more westerly direction and head over to CUN and turn north to DFW to avoid the storm.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:44 pm

Quoting Pdxcof9 (Reply 8):

HAHAHA!!! That video made me laugh sooooo hard!!! Love it!!!

Especially when the storm cell finally hits MEM, you see the FX planes all start to scatter around!  Smile
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:03 pm

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 10):
The day Hurricane Rita made landfall in New Orleans I was flying STT - SJU - DFW on AA. When we left SJU the captain said due to the fact that the storm was directly in our way, we'd have to take a more westerly direction and head over to CUN and turn north to DFW to avoid the storm.

I think that would be the favored approach. Besides crazy a.netters, who is going to want to fly through a hurricane if they dont have to?  Big grin Lord knows it would be a horrible ride probably complete with screaming, moaning, and vomiting passengers!

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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:22 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
Besides crazy a.netters, who is going to want to fly through a hurricane if they dont have to? Big grin Lord knows it would be a horrible ride probably complete with screaming, moaning, and vomiting passengers!

Weather nerds. And the worst combination is a weather nerd who is also an A.netter like myself. I'd love a shot to go up in the NOAA G-IV. That said I'd imagine that up around FL410, riding through a hurricane wouldn't be much worse than any other cumuloform activity. Hurricanes are "warm core" systems, which may in fact lend to a "smoother" ride that high up, of course all things are relative and very few commercial airliners make it their hobby to go through squall lines of any sort, tropical or land based.

For those of you interested, here is the aforementioned NOAA G-IV making a hurricane hunting run as of now (3:19am EDT): http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NOAA49
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:35 pm

Even with Concorde (at 60,000 ft) I suppose that they would have to detour the filght if there was a hurricane on the flight path?  Confused
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:54 pm

Quoting Pdxcof9 (Reply 8):

What was so funny about it? Maybe cuz I had the sound off, but it seemed they had to get as many landings in as possible before they just couldn't do so safely. Kinda cuttin it close, IMO.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:19 pm

That video is very cool! I especially like the little wimp who diverts at the end whilst all the other aircraft risk flying through the green bit to land.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:49 pm

Quoting Mattfalcus (Reply 16):
That video is very cool! I especially like the little wimp who diverts at the end whilst all the other aircraft risk flying through the green bit to land.

The 'little wimp' you so eloquently refer to, was merely operating their aircraft in the safest way they saw fit. The fact that you refer to the other aircraft 'risking' flying through the 'green bit' begs the question, which one would you prefer to be sitting in??. I never cease to me amazed by some of the comments on things like this, I for one would prefer to be sipping my Gin and Tonic with a Safe pilot at the pointy end over a Brave one anyday.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:23 pm

Pulkovo (FV) TU154 which crashed one year ago (22 AUG) near Donetsk (Ukraine) unsuccessfully tried to climb over the thunderstorm cells. TU154 entered an area of severe turbulence, pushing up the airplane from 11.961 m to 12.794 m within just 10 seconds. The angle of attack increased to 46 degrees and the airspeed dropped to zero. It entered a deep stall from which the crew could not recover. 170 people died in this catastrophe.

A very sorrowful example how deadly the adverse weather conditions could be and why such areas should be avoided unconditionally.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:50 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
No.....their cell wall height is far higher then a commercial aircraft flies.....

Typically the cloud-tops around the eye-wall of a hurricane (Typhoon or Cyclone..depending upon where you are in the world) reach to well over 60,000 feet. Sometime look at some of the infa-red images and other channels for the satellite imagery the U.S. National Hurricane center posts on their website: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:18 pm

I forget the name of the hurricane but back in SEP'04 I flew MIA-SJU on AA and flew over the edge of that hurricane. It became a little bumpy but nothing drastic.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:23 pm

Quoting N751PR (Reply 6):

Awesome video! Shows how they go around it, and how they fly around waiting for it to pass  Smile
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:29 pm

Awesome video!

I had a SJU-IAH leg on Continental back in October 2004 which did the Cancun flyover instead of the Miami flyover. Added 30 to 45 minutes to the flight...


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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:23 pm

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
Planes do fly over severe weather and tropical weather events, though I doubt they regularly fly through them. Back around 1998-1999, I was flying SJU-BOS and we flew over a hurricane that was churning below us in the Atlantic. We had to go up to 41,000 feet, pushing the service ceiling for the 757. I'll never forget it because, at that altitude, you could actually see the curvature of the earth! It was incredible!

This makes me wonder, if a plane needs to decent when it is flying on top of a storm, what is going to happen? If a decompression or engine failure which means the flight has to decent, what is gonna happen?
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:44 pm

When you are on an airline and told you are flying over Hurricane's you are at most just flying over the feeder bands associated with the storms. A storm like DEAN has feeder bands over 500 miles from the source so the crew of an airline flight would not totally lying saying you are flying over the storm, but you are not flying over the center or most severe area. A lot also has to do with the strenght of the storm where you might really fly over a small tropical storm with tops in the low 30's at say 410 but you won't ever top a Level 4 hurricane.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:01 am

Quoting N751PR (Reply 6):

do you have a link to this,as all i can see is a blank square with a X at the top left.

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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:02 am

This mornings St. Petersburg Times (http://www.sptimes.com) has a feature article on the NOAA hurricane hunters that fly out of MacDill AFB including an interactive video about the P-3 Orion. Regarding the Gulfstream IV: During this year's contract talks their was a dispute about using the business aircraft for hurricane monitoring as it was built to withstand standard transport category G-loads of +2 -1. It was resolved but (as I understand it) there was brief talk of using other A/C including some business jets certified for FL510 before settling on the G-IV.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:53 am

Quoting Mattfalcus (Reply 16):

That is funny I dont care who you are.

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 17):

No offense Speedbird, but i think he was making a joke and you never got it. I personally laughed when I read that post.

Well at least I hope he was joking.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:40 am

I wonder how many hours that video covers. Looks like an ATC nightmare.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:46 am

That "ATC" nightmare plays out on a daily basis when there are thunderstorms approaching a hub. I've experienced it many times in ORD and ATL where you can see the storms approaching all day on the radar. It still amazes me when I think about the logistics involved to not have any metal bump.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:53 am

Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 26):
During this year's contract talks their was a dispute about using the business aircraft for hurricane monitoring as it was built to withstand standard transport category G-loads of +2 -1. It was resolved but (as I understand it) there was brief talk of using other A/C including some business jets certified for FL510 before settling on the G-IV.

The NOAA G-IV has been around since 1996, so unless they were considering trading it in or something on a G-V (or other similar sized FL510 bird) there wasn't much dispute... the monies just aren't there with the whittling away the Feds have been doing to NOAA budget components recently. "Gonzo" has been going about it's business for quite some time now, and I'm sure it's regularly inspected for any fatigue symptoms. It also only flies a supposed 300 hr/yr, which would make buying another new aircraft even more foolish.

http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/aircraft_g4.htm
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:59 am

A couple of years ago, I flew on a domestic flight from ITM-HND when there was a typhoon approaching. Just for everyone's information, the most horrible weather in typhoons come directly to their east side, the side that we were in that day. However, the pilot requested a much lower than normal altitutde that day (he stated it himself saying that we were at 18,000 ft, 20 minutes after departure) and we were basically leveled. The flight was extremely bumpy as we approached HND, but he conducted an awesome silky landing.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:04 am

Quoting Jayspilot (Reply 24):
When you are on an airline and told you are flying over Hurricane's you are at most just flying over the feeder bands associated with the storms. A storm like DEAN has feeder bands over 500 miles from the source so the crew of an airline flight would not totally lying saying you are flying over the storm, but you are not flying over the center or most severe area. A lot also has to do with the strenght of the storm where you might really fly over a small tropical storm with tops in the low 30's at say 410 but you won't ever top a Level 4 hurricane.

Experienced that during Hurricane Katrina in 2005. We were flying over Missouri ORD-PHX America West A320. and the storm bands were that far north and the plane shook like crazy!
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:33 am

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 15):
Maybe cuz I had the sound off,

The sound definitely helps, great vid!!!
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:36 am

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 17):
The 'little wimp' you so eloquently refer to, was merely operating their aircraft in the safest way they saw fit.

I'll fly with the little wimp any day.

I've been in a DL B727 when we tried to go over a thunderstorm - with the drink cart breaking loose and banging the ceiling, along with a FA who broke both legs and several broken bones by other passengers.

I like flying with pilots who are weather wimps.

(And I've flown inside Pacific typhoons on EC-121 aircraft. Interesting but not a fun trip)
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 34):
I like flying with pilots who are weather wimps.

Indeed. I would much rather fly with a timid pilot than someone who wants to fly through some crazy stuff. I had a pilot that tried to be a badass coming from CDG-LAX on AF. The experiance was similar to what you describe.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
I think that would be the favored approach. Besides crazy a.netters, who is going to want to fly through a hurricane if they dont have to?

I know right! I'd love to hitch a ride on one of the "Hurricane Hunters" and fly into EYE of the storm like some of the do.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
Lord knows it would be a horrible ride probably complete with screaming, moaning, and vomiting passengers!

Now that would've sucked!!

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
Maybe the if the Capitan hates his FA's!

I don't remember the alternate route adding all that much more time. I'm sure nobody minded it really considering the circumstances.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:43 am

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 17):
The 'little wimp' you so eloquently refer to, was merely operating their aircraft in the safest way they saw fit



Quoting Dannynoble (Reply 27):
No offense Speedbird, but i think he was making a joke and you never got it. I personally laughed when I read that post.

Well at least I hope he was joking.

I agree. With the sound turned on, it really comes off as entertainment and not actual aircraft in some sort of danger. Almost like watching ants trying to get into a pile of sugar, but with an obstacle in their way.

Fun to watch.

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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:44 am

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 34):
I'll fly with the little wimp any day.

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Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 17):
I never cease to me amazed by some of the comments on things like this, I for one would prefer to be sipping my Gin and Tonic with a Safe pilot at the pointy end over a Brave one anyday.

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The "wimp who diverted" could have been because of micro-burst windshear. We all know what that has done to some aircraft.

Quoting MOW (Reply 18):
Pulkovo (FV) TU154 which crashed one year ago (22 AUG) near Donetsk (Ukraine) unsuccessfully tried to climb over the thunderstorm cells. TU154 entered an area of severe turbulence, pushing up the airplane from 11.961 m to 12.794 m within just 10 seconds. The angle of attack increased to 46 degrees and the airspeed dropped to zero. It entered a deep stall from which the crew could not recover. 170 people died in this catastrophe.

A very sorrowful example how deadly the adverse weather conditions could be and why such areas should be avoided unconditionally.

That was just 2 months after my first TU-154 flight (Aeroflot SVO-IST) and we flew over the Ukraine.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:43 am

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 17):
Quoting Mattfalcus (Reply 16):
That video is very cool! I especially like the little wimp who diverts at the end whilst all the other aircraft risk flying through the green bit to land.

The 'little wimp' you so eloquently refer to, was merely operating their aircraft in the safest way they saw fit. The fact that you refer to the other aircraft 'risking' flying through the 'green bit' begs the question, which one would you prefer to be sitting in??. I never cease to me amazed by some of the comments on things like this, I for one would prefer to be sipping my Gin and Tonic with a Safe pilot at the pointy end over a Brave one anyday.

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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:24 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
Planes do fly over severe weather and tropical weather events, though I doubt they regularly fly through them. Back around 1998-1999, I was flying SJU-BOS and we flew over a hurricane that was churning below us in the Atlantic. We had to go up to 41,000 feet,

BS. I doubt you flew over a hurricane or a tropical storm even with cloud tops only at 41,000 feet.


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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:32 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 7):
Planes do fly over severe weather and tropical weather events, though I doubt they regularly fly through them. Back around 1998-1999, I was flying SJU-BOS and we flew over a hurricane that was churning below us in the Atlantic. We had to go up to 41,000 feet, pushing the service ceiling for the 757. I'll never forget it because, at that altitude, you could actually see the curvature of the earth! It was incredible!

You might have flown over the outer bands of the storm, but no way would any pilot attempt to take a 752 through the eye-wall of one of these storms.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:48 am

Quoting Lehpron (Reply 15):
What was so funny about it? Maybe cuz I had the sound off, but it seemed they had to get as many landings in as possible before they just couldn't do so safely. Kinda cuttin it close, IMO.

Boxes don't cry and file complaints to the airline during "light chop". That's why you're less likely to hear cargo guys bitching and whining trying to get around cells.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:02 am

Wasn't there an Argentinean DC-9 that crashed a few year ago because of weather also?
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:08 am

Quoting N751PR (Reply 6):

That was the funniest thing I've ever seen.  rotfl 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:00 am

I have noticed a couple of things that have changed in this regard over the last 10 years or so.

1. Pilots do not take the risks with flying around bad weather that they used to do. THAT BEING SAID -

2. I have flown on over 130 aircraft since Jan 1 of this year. My flights take me largely across the east cost and the midwest US. I cannot recall even one flight that I would consider "scary". I have diverted twice. One MD-88 and One EMB-170. Thunderstorms. On both instances we were delayed geting to our destination by more than 3 Hrs.

For whatever reason (and I am sure technology advancements are one of them), pilots are getting better at avoiding weather, and flying is more pleasant than it used to be.

I remember when flying on Braniff 727's around DFW in the summer - being slammed several times. I think putting customers through this "terror" is unecessary in today's environment.

Today I flew US 1482 (A319) DCA-PVD, although there were TSTMS around the DCA area, the pilots did a great job of totally avoiding the weather and providing for a smooth flight.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:15 am

Quoting Acey (Reply 42):
Boxes don't cry and file complaints to the airline during "light chop". That's why you're less likely to hear cargo guys bitching and whining trying to get around cells.


Very true. I think that with the advancements in Technology and flight planning, Severe turbulence will someday be a thing of the past. My Uncle was a cargo pilot and he said that they would face strong turbulence head on whereas a passenger plane would add my flying time to the flight than face unecesary turbulence.

Quoting PeachAir (Reply 45):
For whatever reason (and I am sure technology advancements are one of them), pilots are getting better at avoiding weather, and flying is more pleasant than it used to be.

Sounds good to me! I dont mind turbulence, but I dont particularly enjoy it either.
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:26 am

Quoting MOW (Reply 18):
I for one would prefer to be sipping my Gin and Tonic with a Safe pilot at the pointy end over a Brave one anyday.

Something tells me you wouldn't be sipping a Gin and Tonic in that situation. If you hate the comments on here you may want to watch what you type since yours is stupid.
 
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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:41 am

Quoting Marcus (Reply 43):
Wasn't there an Argentinean DC-9 that crashed a few year ago because of weather also?

No, not for the weather. You must be talking about Austral´s DC-9 (LV-WEG) that crashed in Fray Bentos, Uruguay in 1997, covering the PSS-AEP route.
In summary, this is what I remember about the incident: The heating system that prevented the airspeed measuring device (pitot tube) from freezing wasn´t functioning, so the airspeed dropped drastically and therefore the pilots increased the throttle and then also extended the slats, compensating a (false) low airspeed. As a result, the slats from one of the wings were torn off the main structure of the aircraft, and it began to make a deadly bank and spin which ended up with the aircraft crashing.

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RE: Do Commercial Planes Fly Over Hurricanes?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:43 am

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