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ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:15 pm

Pilots sometimes append "with india" when they talk to the ATC. What does it mean?

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:20 pm

Thats the pilots telling the ATC the most recent ATIS they've heard. You'll hear " with india, juliet, kilo, zulu, bravo etc..
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:21 pm

"With India" means that you have the current WX (metars) and airport Notams updates. The letter will change with each new revision or update so that you know if you have the most current. The next one after india would be information juliet.
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:21 pm

The ATIS received, local WX conditions at the airport received by the pilots by listening to ATIS radio frequency or ACARS.
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:22 pm

"with ____" (some letter of the phonetic alphabet) is a way for the pilot to indicate to ATC the most recent ATIS (automatic terminal information service) they've received. ATIS contains weather information usually, as well as any other important information.
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:23 pm

Most major airports broadcast an Automated Terminal Information System (ATIS) which is a pre-recorded message that provides current weather conditions and active runway information. Pilots listen to this because it saves time and workload of having controllers repeat the same information over and over to each aircraft. The ATIS broadcast is obviously updated fairly frequently so that it stays current, and it's identified by the alphabet. If the first ATIS of the day is "a", or "alpha", when it's updated it will be "b" or "bravo", then "charlie", "delta", etc., until it rolls over back to alpha. When a pilot contacts ATC and says his callsign "with India", he's telling the controller that he's listened to the "India" ATIS broadcast, so the controller knows he's been advised of weather and any special conditions. If the controller responds "Juliette is current", it means the ATIS message has been updated since the pilot listened to it, and he should listen to the updated broadcast.

[Edited 2007-09-25 06:24:25]
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:24 pm

With (insert a letter from the ICAO phonetic alphabet here) means that the aircraft checking in has received that version of the ATIS (Automated Terminal Information System) broadcast. This is to prevent approach and/or the tower from repeating tons of redundant (but important for flight safety) information to every aircraft that checks in on frequency...If, for example, an aircraft checks in with ATIS information India, and the tower has just updaed the ATIS recording to information Juliet, then the controller that the flight checks in with would be required to give that flight the information in the Juliet ATIS recording.

Normally, ATIS recordings are updated every hour, unless there are significant changes (fronts blowing through, rapidly changing weather, rapid barometric pressure changes, etc.).

Edit: D'oh! J comes after I (not K).

[Edited 2007-09-25 06:27:25]
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:30 pm

Ahh so basically it's just like an identifying code that "india" is the ATIS advisory the pilot listened and the ATC can advise the crew if that is the latest ATIS advisory.

Wow, you guys beat Google! I was trying to google it up too but I know I can always get help here on A.Net when it comes to aviation stuff.

Thanks for the quick responses guys!

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:30 pm

It means that they have the ATIS for the airport that they're landing at. ATIS broadcasts are changed hourly (except in the case of rapidly changing weather), and each is assigned a letter of the phonetic alphabet. If a pilot calls up and gives the correct letter, ATC knows that the pilot has the most up-to-date information. If the pilot gives an out-of-date letter, ATC can tell them to get the more recent information. The letter cycles every hour, so after India would come Juliet, and then Kilo, and so on.

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:32 pm

An example would be "LaGuardia ground, bluestreak **** at spot 24 ready to taxi and we have india". This is the controllers que that the pilot has the up to date conditions of the field pertenant to safe operation of the airplane. Alot of times when the information changes and you ahve already been issued a clearnce the controller will call and say to aircraft on frequenct tht new information is juliet which is the pilots que to go back over and check ATIS once more for furthur update.
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:45 pm

Quoting N710PS (Reply 9):
the controller will call and say to aircraft on frequenct tht new information is juliet which is the pilots que to go back over and check ATIS once more for furthur update.

Which usually sounds something like "Attention all aircraft, information Juliet is now current..."
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:01 pm

My oh my you guys are quick.

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:10 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 11):
My oh my you guys are quick.

Hey, it was smack dab in the middle of prime time here on the West Coast and no teams I care about were on Monday Night Football  Wink
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:02 pm

I know your question was with the current information but India is also a designated taxi route (Indicated by the letter I).

Just for your quick information, I'll just list it right here:

Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India, Juliet, Kilo, Lima, Mike, November, Oscar, Papa, Quebec, Romeo, Sierra, Tango, Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, X-ray, Yankee, and Zulu.

Among these, Whiskey is my favorite.

The strange thing is, I have never heard information Whiskey before but I am sure it exists.

These codes are used in the military too I think (according to my friend in the Canadian military).
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:11 pm

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 13):
The strange thing is, I have never heard information Whiskey before but I am sure it exists

Hear it all the time!! We even sometimes like to joke around with tower, and let them know we have the "booze news"
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:50 pm

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 13):
The strange thing is, I have never heard information Whiskey before but I am sure it exists.

I have. It's great hearing "On first contact with XXXX tower, apron or approach, notify receipt of Whiskey."  Big grin
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:47 pm

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 13):
I know your question was with the current information but India is also a designated taxi route (Indicated by the letter I).

Just for your quick information, I'll just list it right here:

Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India, Juliet, Kilo, Lima, Mike, November, Oscar, Papa, Quebec, Romeo, Sierra, Tango, Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, X-ray, Yankee, and Zulu.

These are not specific to ATIS or Taxiways. These are standard phonetic alphabets on the radio. Using these instead of spelling the actual alphabets removes any confusions between B & D or anything that may sound similar on radio. This makes the transmissions clearer and reduces the need for repeating instructions.
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:08 pm

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 13):
I know your question was with the current information but India is also a designated taxi route (Indicated by the letter I).

Just for your quick information, I'll just list it right here:

Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta, Echo, Foxtrot, Golf, Hotel, India, Juliet, Kilo, Lima, Mike, November, Oscar, Papa, Quebec, Romeo, Sierra, Tango, Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, X-ray, Yankee, and Zulu.

Among these, Whiskey is my favorite.

The strange thing is, I have never heard information Whiskey before but I am sure it exists.

My favorite taxi route is here at DFW... we have a "pilots weekend" Golf Whiskey Golf. Also we have 17R KEG; Kilo, Echo Golf. Good Times!
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:05 am

Was it always Zulu? I thought it used to be Zebra....Old folks please help...
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:31 am

Quoting Comorin (Reply 18):

there have been a number of phonetic alaphabets over the years, although everyone seems to be mostly stardardized now. Wikipedia doen't seem to have too much, but it looks like it was part of the RAF WWII phonetic alphabet:


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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:34 am

I'm surprised no one has brought that that old joke about "do you have hotel"....
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:35 am

Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 20):
I'm surprised no one has brought that that old joke about "do you have hotel"....

Please do elaborate Big grin
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:14 am

Quoting Doug_Or (Reply 19):
19, posted Tue Sep 25 2007 13:31:23 your local time (6 hours 39 minutes 55 secs ago) and read 340 times:

Quoting Comorin (Reply 18):

there have been a number of phonetic alaphabets over the years, although everyone seems to be mostly stardardized now. Wikipedia doen't seem to have too much, but it looks like it was part of the RAF WWII phonetic alphabet:

Thanks for clarifying that! I probably remember it from my 'Biggles' books...  old 
 
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:12 am

If you want to hear the live ATIS broadcast at Boston Logan, put this URL into your Winamp audio player

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:47 pm

Quoting Jasp25 (Reply 7):
Thanks for the quick responses guys!

don't encourage them too much, or this friday night they'll probably have some kind of ATIS alphabet spelling bee
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:51 pm

Quoting Jasp25 (Thread starter):
Pilots sometimes append "with india" when they talk to the ATC. What does it mean?

it means we're not answering in an hour, because we'll be "with juliet"
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:52 pm

...not sure if it is still in action, but if one came at the correct time they could check in with Boston approach by saying, "at DRUNK with Whiskey"...
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:37 pm

I just can't believe, it took 26 replies to tell you it means I  Smile
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:41 am

Anywho regarding ATIS's.

They come up every hour, unless we have what is called a "SPECI" (or Special Weather). This is when conditions have changed enough to warrant a new ATIS. Also if we have a new taxiway closure, runway closure, ILS/NAVAID failure, OTS, etc. etc. etc. we'll "Cut a new ATIS". At big airports, our ATIS's run 24/7 and never shut down/start-up again like at smaller facilities when they close at night etc.

I might have missed it, but it is also an FAA requirement for all IFR aircraft to have the current ATIS, not just "The numbers" and for all VFR aircraft to at the minimum have what we call the numbers (runway, wind, altimeter), when flying into an airport with the ATIS. Most people arent sticklers for that one, but I always make sure you say "I'll get bravo" or "I have bravo" when you said "info Alpha" or "I have the numbers".

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:02 am

We get a few pilots who like to shortcut the whole "listening" part of getting the ATIS. They listen long enough to hear which letter is current, but not long enough to catch "Clearance Delivery is closed, combined with ground control on 121.xx..."

So what we hear is; "XXX flight 340 requesting clearance with Charlie." On the clearance freq.

One night we had everything combined on the tower frequency, which was on ATIS KILO. About 9:00pm a Tomahawk student pilot starts calling for VFR departure instructions on the ground frequency, with information KILO. I ignore him. He calls again and states he has KILO. I ignore him. Half a minute goes by.Now the instructor gets on with an attitude. "SO AND SO GROUND, RADIO CHECK, ANYONE THERE?" So I punch up the frequency and say "Tomahawk 123, did you say you had KILO?" Instructor replies; "Affirmative, KILO." I say; "On information KILO it states everything is combined with the tower on 118.xx." About a minute later the student checks in again on tower frequency with KILO. Haha. Good times.

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:29 am

Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 13):
Among these, Whiskey is my favorite.

The strange thing is, I have never heard information Whiskey before but I am sure it exists.

I've heard it plenty of times. One instance was on St. Patrick's day, really early in the morning:

Tower: Attention all aircraft, ATIS information whisk....viskey [start Irish accent] is now current, the altimiter's tree zero one fife.

Unknown person on frequency: Haha!

Tower: Aye, its St Patty's day!


Perhaps he did it to make fun of the 'tree' and 'fife' pronunciations that we're supposed to be using, funny nevertheless.

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 15):
It's great hearing "On first contact with XXXX tower, apron or approach, notify receipt of Whiskey."

Hehe. Here, ATIS usually tells people to "advise on initial contact you have information ____", unfortunately.  Wink
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:41 am

I once heard ATIS Papa....only the controller pronounced it "puh-PAH".

Sure enough, each and every aircraft calling ground or tower reported having that information:

Cessna 3258Y is 10 to the north, inbound for landing with puh-PAH

Cardinal 45 Bravo is at the terminal ramp, ready to taxi to the active with puh-PAH

Extra 4 Mike Golf, 8 east, inbound puh-PAH


...and so on. It was pretty ridiculous.  biggrin 


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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:12 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 31):
I once heard ATIS Papa....only the controller pronounced it "puh-PAH".

According to the 7110.65, the accent should be on the second syllable, even though very few actually say it that way.

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:50 am

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 31):
I once heard ATIS Papa....only the controller pronounced it "puh-PAH".

Sure enough, each and every aircraft calling ground or tower reported having that information:

Cessna 3258Y is 10 to the north, inbound for landing with puh-PAH

Cardinal 45 Bravo is at the terminal ramp, ready to taxi to the active with puh-PAH

Extra 4 Mike Golf, 8 east, inbound puh-PAH

...and so on. It was pretty ridiculous. biggrin


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I got corrected once by the ABQ approach controller for referring to the aircraft I was flying (N2809Q) as "zero niner kwebec", instead of the proper ICAO pronunciation of "zero niner kebec" (note in the second one, the lack of the "w" sound)  Yeah sure
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:16 am

Speaking of ATIS...have any of you guys ever caught ATC "goofing off" in the backround (while the messgae was being taped)?  wink 
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:31 am

Going into JFK once the ATIS had a happy birthday greeting to one of the controllers. Of course every jet that checked on wished a happy birthday to XXXX!
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:48 am

according to JAA, we aren't supposed to phrase anything "with...."

it's information X,y,z onboard, and they dont like it when you say with so and so
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:51 am

Iv was tought the correct terminology in Australia anyways is received Romeo, but i always here people especially helicopter pilots using with

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:32 pm

Every time I get information Whiskey I like to say "I've got the booze news". The controllers get a kick out of it Big grin
 
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:05 pm

Out spotting once at JFK with a few of our fellow Anet spotters I called ATIS on my cell and at the end it had some sort of statement like Pluto, planet or not, you decide. This was shortly after they announced it was no longer considered one. On the scanner a few including a B6 flight checked in with ground and remarked at the end "and we say it is a planet." Pretty funny.
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:08 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 21):
Please do elaborate Big grin

Here goes:

Its over las vegas, information Hotel is current, and Mooney 33W is unfamiliar and talking to approach

Approach: 33W, confirm you have hotel
33W: Ummmm, we flying into McCarren International. Umm, we don't have a hotel room yet.

Approach was laughing too hard to respond. The next few calls went like this:

Approach: United 5, descend to FL220.
United 5: United 5 down to FL220, we don't have a hotel room either.
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:12 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 33):
I got corrected once by the ABQ approach controller for referring to the aircraft I was flying (N2809Q) as "zero niner kwebec", instead of the proper ICAO pronunciation of "zero niner kebec" (note in the second one, the lack of the "w" sound) Yeah sure

Heh. Well, the proper French pronunciation is indeed with a silent "u". Thus "Kébek".

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:16 am

Don't know how true they are, but saw something like this posted somewhere



Pilot: Tower, Cessna 172 10 east for landing
Tower: Cessna 172, do you have HOTEL?
Pilot: Don't need HOTEL, I live in an apartment



Pilot: Tower, Cherokee 180 south of the field for landing
Tower: Cherokee 180, do you have UNIFORM?
Pilot: No, I am in a t-shirt and jeans
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:33 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 41):
Heh. Well, the proper French pronunciation is indeed with a silent "u". Thus "Kébek".

The AIM also says that five is supposed to be FIFE, three is TREE, nine is NINER, and one is WUN
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:10 am

At burning man every year, they put out an unofficial notam to all aviators which discuss traffic protocol and pattern altitudes. Every year the notam has a code which we are asked to repeat to let the Unicom guys know that we've actually read the information and know what we're doing.

This year, the code was "PANTS OFF".

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:26 am

Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 40):
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 21):
Please do elaborate Big grin

Here goes:

Its over las vegas, information Hotel is current, and Mooney 33W is unfamiliar and talking to approach

Approach: 33W, confirm you have hotel
33W: Ummmm, we flying into McCarren International. Umm, we don't have a hotel room yet.

Approach was laughing too hard to respond. The next few calls went like this:

Approach: United 5, descend to FL220.
United 5: United 5 down to FL220, we don't have a hotel room either.

LOL,....
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:30 am

Quoting 9VSIO (Reply 40):
ere goes:

Its over las vegas, information Hotel is current, and Mooney 33W is unfamiliar and talking to approach

Approach: 33W, confirm you have hotel
33W: Ummmm, we flying into McCarren International. Umm, we don't have a hotel room yet.

Approach was laughing too hard to respond. The next few calls went like this:

Approach: United 5, descend to FL220.
United 5: United 5 down to FL220, we don't have a hotel room either.


 rotfl  Thanks for sharing that one!
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:54 pm

Quoting J.mo (Reply 29):
We get a few pilots who like to shortcut the whole "listening" part of getting the ATIS. They listen long enough to hear which letter is current, but not long enough to catch "Clearance Delivery is closed, combined with ground control on 121.xx..."

At APF we have had the runways closed a few times recently for painting during the day for a couple of hours. Well about a month ago during one of those stints we had an old guy climb into his mooney fire up and call ground.

Mooney: Naples Ground mooney 1234 with you at the authority ramp taxi with KILO for a VFR departure to the south

Ground: Mooney calling naples you said you have the atis?

Mooney: Yes KILO

Ground: Well then sir you would know the runways are closed so could you please say intentions

Not another word from the mooney. The guy shut down walked inside avoiding eye contact with everyone.
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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:00 am

Quoting J.mo (Reply 29):
About a minute later the student checks in again on tower frequency with KILO. Haha. Good times.

Sounds like an operational deviation waiting to happen if ya ask me.

Quoting N231YE (Reply 34):
have any of you guys ever caught ATC "goofing off" in the backround

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RE: ATC Talk: What Does "with India" Mean?

Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:31 am

Quoting ATCT (Reply 48):
Never  

Never say never!

Speaking of which, my University is having a University pilots versus TOL ATC football game (we use them a lot). I'm kinda scared, because us pilots are in a lose-lose situation.

If we lose, then we lose, and if we win, I can see the harassment they'll provide us when we use them, "hey, its one of them...vector them so far north that they see endless caribou, snow, and lots of people playing hockey"  wink 

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