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HAWK21M
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Maintenance & Health

Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:36 pm

Today was a sad day as a very close collegue of mine,an AME passed away in his late forties due cardiac arrest.
The news was so surprising & sudden that it has cast a gloom over the entire team at Maintenance.

The talk on is was this stress related.And if so what can be done to avoid it.

Apart from the mandatory Annual medicals checks required by the regulatory authority.Are there any solutions apart from Exercise & diet.


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RE: Maintenance & Health

Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:00 pm

Sorry to hear about your friend. Cardiac arrest in your 40's is usually a very bad attack. Most things I've read about those age group attacks is they are very serious and many times fatal. Stress could be a factor, but many are caused by genetic problems in that age group. Of course a poor diet and lack of exercise oculd add fuel to the attack.

So, is the life of an AME stressfull? Only if you let it be. This is the case in many careers. I've never found the actual job to be stressfull. I find it relaxing. I try not to let the ready time issue get to me. The lifestyle is most likley the worst part. Juggling the third shift with bad off days and family life is the hard part. Some guys I work with are also working second jobs because our airline, Delta, refuses to adjust the wage for mechanics working in high cost stations.

I think the largest threat to AME's on the job is the slient killer. Long term exposure to chemicals. I've been a mecahnic for 17 years and things are different now. Many of the worst chemical are now gone, Triclor, MEK to name a couple, but many mechanics are still very cavalier about chemical exposure. I once worked with a guy whose dad was a retired mechanic. He said most of his dad's work friends died soon after retirement. We both thought long term exposure was a cause.
 
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RE: Maintenance & Health

Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:26 pm



Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 1):
Some guys I work with are also working second jobs because our airline, Delta, refuses to adjust the wage for mechanics working in high cost stations

Is that legally permitted.Out here its not.
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RE: Maintenance & Health

Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:40 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 2):
Is that legally permitted.Out here its not.

What is not legally permitted? The lack of wage adjustment or the 2nd job?

Why would having a 2nd job be illegal? If a person chooses, or needs, to work a 2nd job, what business is it of the government?

Quoting HAWK21M (Thread starter):
Apart from the mandatory Annual medicals checks required by the regulatory authority.

Mandated annual physicals for AMT's? Interesting.

This just in: more fuel for the fire:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071129/ap_on_he_me/night_shift_cancer

Hawk, at 40 or so years old, I'm going to guess that your colleague had either an undiagnosed congenital condition or a very unhealthy life style. Add the stress that most feel on this job and you have the makings of a major MI.
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RE: Maintenance & Health

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:32 pm

Like DALMD88 said its only stressful if you let it be. When I'm doing an actual job I'm happy as a clam. Its all the company and union politics that can get a bit annoying. But once again only if you let it. Some guys I work with get themselves worked up into a frenzy over things for which they have no control over. In my younger days I was guilty of this. However I realized I wasn't doing myself any good.

The things that have an affect on an AME/AMT that which do not have complete control over are the chemicals and the hours. As DALMD88 stated previously some of the nastier chemicals are now gone. However you still don't want things like skydrol and Jet A getting on you on a regular basis. That's why I always use latex gloves when I do work involving fluids. Some of the guys I work with don't, their funeral I guess. Working nights as we all know puts a strain on teh body as we all know. One thing I have found that helps is getting to the gym three or four times a week. Helps clear the mind and energizes the body.
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RE: Maintenance & Health

Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:01 am

One other thing that's finally being "discovered" by the medical profession;

For those of you with less than twenty years seniority; Sleep in as near to total darkness as possible.
Definite links to stress induced weight gain and certain cancers have been made to a lack of melatonin caused by trying to sleep in the light.
And all these years I personally thought my belly was the result of my wives' (I'm in aviation, AIDS, remember?) good cooking.

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RE: Maintenance & Health

Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:24 am

Also an issue in your part of the world, MEL, is if the guy was eating a traditional diet or ate lots of "Western" food  Sad Unfortunately, of all the things that we Americans have exported to the rest of the world, deep-fried foods, meals laden with cheese, and hydrogenated cooking oils are probably doing the most harm, and I have heard from more than one MD (doctor, that is) that heart disease rates in Asia (well, China in particular) are skyrocketing due to the influence of cheeseburgers, french fries, pizza, and milkshakes are having on the local diet.

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RE: Maintenance & Health

Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:40 am



Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 1):
many are caused by genetic problems

Several years ago a friend of mine lost his father (who was in his mid-40's) to a heart attack. When I mentioned it to the medics, they said that family history (ie. genetics) is the biggest pre-disposing factor for heart disease. A few years after that, he wound up taking pills for his heart- but that's as bad as it's gotten so far.
By the way, statistically speaking, heart disease is the leading natural cause of death among men in North America. For women, the leading natural cause of death is...no, not breast cancer, heart disease.

In the United States in 2004, all cardiovascular diseases combined claimed the lives of 461,152 females while all forms of cancer combined to kill 265,013 females. Breast cancer claimed the lives of 40,539 females; lung cancer claimed 67,838.
source: American Heart Association
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RE: Maintenance & Health

Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:34 am



Quoting Fr8mech (Reply 3):
What is not legally permitted? The lack of wage adjustment or the 2nd job

The 2nd Job.Most of The Company rules out here forbid it.

Quoting Fr8mech (Reply 3):
Mandated annual physicals for AMT's? Interesting

Once every 12 months to be specific.And Licence renewed every 2 yrs.

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 4):
Working nights as we all know puts a strain on teh body as we all know. One thing I have found that helps is getting to the gym three or four times a week. Helps clear the mind and energizes the body.

True Exercise does help.

Tobbacco & Alcohol are contributing causes too & better avoided.

Night shift has the strain with it but if one can rest well there should not be a problem.
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RE: Maintenance & Health

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:48 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
The 2nd Job.Most of The Company rules out here forbid it.

Here second jobs are not illegal. Companies generally won't let you work for a competitor. Employees that work a 2nd job are expected to perform the same as everybody else and are often asked to leave the second job if their performance is affected by it.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Night shift has the strain with it but if one can rest well there should not be a problem.

WHO - The World Health Organization - is preparing to issue findings that in broad context both contradict and confirm that assessment. They are going to add night shift work to the list of probable carcinogens. I recommend reading the article I linked. Very interesting for those of us on midnights. Maybe we can use this info to lobby for a bigger midnight shift premium.  Wink

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...38ZaUMA7BR989pxROFXwJI9JgD8T7KKNO1

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RE: Maintenance & Health

Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:08 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 2):
Is that legally permitted.Out here its not.



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
The 2nd Job.Most of The Company rules out here forbid it.

Mel:

Are you saying that the company you work for has somehow got the government to pass a law that you can not hold a second job? Or that you company does not allow its employees to hold a second job? There is a big difference: one is a law, punishable by fine or jail and the second the only recourse would be to fire you.
 
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RE: Maintenance & Health

Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:53 pm



Quoting 474218 (Reply 10):

Im talking all almost all companies out here.An Employee cannot hold two jobs simultaneously even though the timings differ.
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