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IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:01 pm

Out of sheer curiosity, other than ABX Air with their 767-200s, has any other operator retrofitted their 737 classic and/or 757/767 fleet with the large format displays modification by IS&S?

Delta is studying this for their 757/767ER fleet. AA recently selected this modification for their entire 757/767 fleet. For those interested, he's an ABX Air example (modified 767-232 with IS&S upgrade):


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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:46 pm

We are considering the same for B752SF & B752PCF.Its quite an impressive Stores Inventory reduction,as the number of Instruments eplaced is a lot.However it works well for an Airline with a larger fleet,so thats the obstacle.

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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:50 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
We are considering the same for B752SF & B752PCF.Its quite an impressive Stores Inventory reduction,as the number of Instruments eplaced is a lot.However it works well for an Airline with a larger fleet,so thats the obstacle.

Based on the data I've seen, provided the airline invests in the technology, the savings are substantial and the modification pays for itself. I wonder if anyone at FedEx could chime in? Since they will be a 757F operator for many years starting soon surely they could see the benefit from this...
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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:15 pm



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 2):
Since they will be a 757F operator for many years starting soon surely they could see the benefit from this...

Considering their proposed fleet size.It would workout well for FedEx.

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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Sat Dec 29, 2007 2:15 am

No 737 operators yet. And AA and ABX Air are the only operators that are currently working with IS&S to retrofit their 757/767 fleets, as you said. And FedEx is the cargo operator in the recent 757F/IS&S news.
 
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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:15 am

Kalitta Air were in the process of retrofitting their 747-200 fleet with IS&S displays. That mod only involved the engine instruments, the aircraft already had EFIS.
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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:21 am



Quoting Jetlagged (Reply 5):
Kalitta Air were in the process of retrofitting their 747-200 fleet with IS&S displays. That mod only involved the engine instruments, the aircraft already had EFIS.

My dad was involved with that project. Said he got to play around in the cockpit for a little of one of the aircraft.
 
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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:32 am



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 6):
My dad was involved with that project. Said he got to play around in the cockpit for a little of one of the aircraft.

Interesting.
Can you request your Dad for some details on the Work involved.
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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:13 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Can you request your Dad for some details on the Work involved.

Well he's an engineer, so he worked on all the techincal stuff. Schematics, numbers, etc. I guess he had to go visit them and make sure everything worked for the first time, and then go back and make any changes if necessary.
 
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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:47 pm



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 8):
Well he's an engineer, so he worked on all the techincal stuff

Exactly why the request.Is it possible.
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RE: IS&S Flight Deck Upgrades

Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:59 pm

Came across this post, I'm very much interested in hearing if anyone knows if AA or DL has intentions of moving forward with this?

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