william
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Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:27 am

This past Thursday I was driving into Houston on 290 when I looked up and saw aircraft turning onto final heading east. Thats unusual as most of the arrivals into IAH land toward the west no matter if its a south or north wind. My question is -

1.Why was ATC turning aircraft onto final some 30 plus miles from the airport? Is it because the southern runway is not useable from the western approaches since it would fly over the twin NW/SE runways used for departures? So more traffic is thrown on the two runways on the north side?

2.And when using this pattern do they use the east/west runway on the south side of the airport for departures east since it cannot be used for landings from the west?

Thank you in advance.
 
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:32 pm



Quoting William (Thread starter):
Thats unusual as most of the arrivals into IAH land toward the west no matter if its a south or north wind. My question is -

Northeast wind and some and wet runways don't make landing west a very friendly thing.....yes, even IAH lands east at times and not all that unusual as you'd think.

Quoting William (Thread starter):
1.Why was ATC turning aircraft onto final some 30 plus miles from the airport? Is it because the southern runway is not useable from the western approaches since it would fly over the twin NW/SE runways used for departures? So more traffic is thrown on the two runways on the north side?

If you were on 290 you were seeing a final about 20 miles or so, not 30 but 30 does happen more and more.

Turning final 20-25 miles out is fairly common, and when using 3 runways almost 25-30 miles due to the requirement for 1,000' of altitude between the 3 different runways, ensuring aircraft intercept the final at or below glideslope which at times makes it a very difficult process when your feed from the enroute facility isn't the best due to winds, short side, and other options, and the freeeeeakn NIMBY non sense over Champions.

Departures actually can flow pretty simple when landing the 8's....toss landing on 9 into the mix and then you have the issue of overlying the 15's. But if landing only 8L/R, you can actually get the departures out quicker, (or should be able to) since you depart 15L/R with everyone except northbound traffic, they blast off on 9 without any arrivals.

Quoting William (Thread starter):
2.And when using this pattern do they use the east/west runway on the south side of the airport for departures east since it cannot be used for landings from the west?

See above answer, but you got it.....now come sign up and work!  Smile
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:45 am

I replied on the HoustonSpotters.net post. But pretty much the same as my esteemed colleague from downstairs said.

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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:30 pm



Quoting ATCT (Reply 2):
I replied on the HoustonSpotters.net post. But pretty much the same as my esteemed colleague from downstairs said

That is very very scary!!

Oh does esteemed mean OLD?  crackup 
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william
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:25 pm

Thank you very much for your answers.
 
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:28 pm

Thank you very much for your answers.
 
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:45 am



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
yes, even IAH lands east at times and not all that unusual as you'd think.

True! IAH is almost as reluctant as LAX at switching their runway configurations, but they'll do it  Smile
 
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:21 pm

The joke is if IAH is landing east, the wind has to be out of the west!  Wow!  alert 
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ThePinnacleKid
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:25 pm

hey IAHFLYR.... on the other end of you guys... we always joke that landing west the winds must be from the east... and the reported wind speed is proportional to the real wind speed... aka... 060@9 is really 060@15G20 but we'll land on the 26's anyway.... =)

all seriousness... you guys do great work! Always fun playin the game with ya'll.
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RE: Question For IAH Spotters And Pilots

Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:09 am



Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 8):
060@9 is really 060@15G20 but we'll land on the 26's anyway.... =)

Ya know, the friken digital ATIS has really no idea what goes on at the airport......INFORMATIO OOAHKAR!

Yes, you know the plan, the object is to land..........regardless if the runway is dry.  Smile
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