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What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:18 pm



Quote:
"The pilot indicated that he was going to be making an emergency landing at speed"
West Yorkshire Police spokesman

Full story here: Austrian F100 emergency at LBA

Is this an Austrian procedure only?  Wink
 
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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:20 pm

maybe the flaps weren't working? To me that's what "at speed" would mean....
 
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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:21 pm



Quoting AirCatalonia (Thread starter):
Full story here: Austrian F100 emergency at LBA

Is this an Austrian procedure only? Wink

Well, I was asking myself the same question and I am a pilot!

I just know: with one engine out you dont put in as much flaps as you would with all engines running normal. So you have a higher approach speed. Maybe thats why they call it "at speed"... thats the only thing I can think of now

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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:25 pm

I think Wilco is right. "At speed" sounds like a colloquial way of saying "faster than normal."


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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:40 pm

The quote comes from a police officer, who is no more knowledgeable about aircraft than the media.
 
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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:16 am

Technically one would think it means "A landing with Flaps up or not extended to needed position",but from reading the article it could mean "urgent"
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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:23 pm



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 2):
I just know: with one engine out you dont put in as much flaps as you would with all engines running normal.

True for most types but not all, the A320 family in particular is happy to land Flap FULL even single engine.

Can't speak for the F-100.
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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:43 pm



Quoting Rick767 (Reply 6):
True for most types but not all, the A320 family in particular is happy to land Flap FULL even single engine.

But is that the procedure for a single-engine landing? Or is the normal go-around flap setting used as a precaution in case of a go-around?

Quoting Rick767 (Reply 6):
Can't speak for the F-100.

It's been a long time since I flew the F-100 but IIRC, flaps-8 was used for single-engine approach/landing... to facilitate go-arounds if needed.  wink 
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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:50 pm



Quoting Rick767 (Reply 6):
True for most types but not all, the A320 family in particular is happy to land Flap FULL even single engine.

Flaps FULL with single engine during approach and landing? Wow, I hope you guys can make the PDG for the missed approach procedure in case of a single engine go around!
On the 737 you only put in flaps 15 ISO 30 or 40.

On the MD11F you use flaps 35 when one engine is out...

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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:55 pm

Don't fly the A320 anymore but indeed it's Flap FULL for both s/e and normal landings.

In the event of a Go around "Go Around Flap" is the call, then PNF selects F3. Same for two engines, and s/e. So easy. I miss the Airbus!!

And yes, it achieves great performance on a missed approach even single engine at or near MLW.
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RE: What Is An Emergency Landing "At Speed"?

Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:58 pm



Quoting Rick767 (Reply 9):

Alright, didnt know that! thanks for the info!

Safe flying!

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