super737
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Airline Crewing Officer

Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:19 pm

Hi, im considering a career in airline operations. Iam very interested in the crewing department and i have looked at the CAP document about crewing and FTL and FDP limitations. COould anybody tell me about there own experiences in this department and what the salary would be in GBP? I would like to thank everybody in advance for their responses  

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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:38 am

Are you talking about rostering in Flt ops....Out here thats done by the Flight despatcher as an addon job.

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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:26 pm

It wholly depends what rank you start at and which airline you go to with regards to salary but it is an interesting job, especially if you get to know the rules and regulations well. PM me for more info if you need it  Smile
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:08 am



Quoting Super737 (Thread starter):

I've never heard the job called Crewing Officert.... most of what I hear is 'Screw' Scheduler.......aka... Crew Scheduler. Not a very popular job at many airlines.
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:55 am



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
Not a very popular job at many airlines.

Yea I hated crew scheduling, They were'nt permitted to hang out with me ever. Scumbags!

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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:51 am

Thanks for all of the replies everyone!
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:56 pm



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
I've never heard the job called Crewing Officert.... most of what I hear is 'Screw' Scheduler.......aka... Crew Scheduler. Not a very popular job at many airlines.



Quoting ATCT (Reply 4):
Yea I hated crew scheduling, They were'nt permitted to hang out with me ever. Scumbags!

You apparently must have never been on the phone with a pilot who is screaming at the top of their lungs and acting like a complete bitch. I know quite a few schedulers and they don't have crap to do with what/where/when you fly. Blame the program. All they do is go down the list and start with the first guy, if he's "sick" you go to the next one and so on.
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:16 pm



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 6):
You apparently must have never been on the phone with a pilot who is screaming at the top of their lungs and acting like a complete bitch. I know quite a few schedulers and they don't have crap to do with what/where/when you fly. Blame the program. All they do is go down the list and start with the first guy, if he's "sick" you go to the next one and so on.

I guess I'm somewhat confused. How does a 16-20 yo, flight student/college student know anything about crew scheduling and dealing with them on a regualr basis? If you believe it's the program, I have some ocean front property in AZ and a bridge in NY I'd like to talk to you about buying!

Crew schedulers are human. You help them, they help you. Dump on them, they will dump on you. Simple fact of life.
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:05 pm



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):
I guess I'm somewhat confused. How does a 16-20 yo, flight student/college student know anything about crew scheduling and dealing with them on a regualr basis?

Maybe he learnt about it in college  wink  .
 
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:22 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):

Thanks bud.... I was thinking the samething. I've been in commercial aviation almost as long as he's been on this planet and was wondering how he's become so wise.

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Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:20 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):
guess I'm somewhat confused. How does a 16-20 yo, flight student/college student know anything about crew scheduling and dealing with them on a regualr basis? If you believe it's the program, I have some ocean front property in AZ and a bridge in NY I'd like to talk to you about buying!

My mother is a scheduler   .

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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:21 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Thanks bud.... I was thinking the samething. I've been in commercial aviation almost as long as he's been on this planet and was wondering how he's become so wise.

Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything? I guess a "16-20 year old can't learn anything from their peers, mentors, and the like. I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life. I guess I'm lucky, my father is a pilot with Continental so aviation is what I love and I will continue to make my comments...se above post by the way.

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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:15 pm



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):

Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything?

Because many of us actually live it..... you dream about it and get your information 2nd or 3rd hand.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life.

What airline pilot life......??? Your Dad is the pilot... not you.
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:48 pm



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything? I guess a "16-20 year old can't learn anything from their peers, mentors, and the like. I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life. I guess I'm lucky, my father is a pilot with Continental so aviation is what I love and I will continue to make my comments...se above post by the way.

It's called misrepresentation!
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:42 am

I was a flight attendant and supervisor (thats my dealings with scheduling...I gotta love being 'junior manned' when im #2 on the seniority, that was a funny one...idiots). My other background was ramp rat through college, pvt pilot, aerial cameraman on a R-44, and ATC in my current career (it is my real job now, I still fly and work on planes on the side...working on finishing my A&P at the moment).

I still dont like screw scheduling.

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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:55 am



Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Thanks bud.... I was thinking the samething. I've been in commercial aviation almost as long as he's been on this planet and was wondering how he's become so wise.

Why do you guys always have to bring age in everything? I guess a "16-20 year old can't learn anything from their peers, mentors, and the like. I get the same flack whenever I make a comment about airline pilot life. I guess I'm lucky, my father is a pilot with Continental so aviation is what I love and I will continue to make my comments...se above post by the way.

I met Jim Lovell and Buzz Aldrin, so I guess I'm fully qualified to comment on the Gemini and Apollo spaceflight programs.  Yeah sure

While it's true that you can learn a lot from pilots, mentors, and even informed people on this site, many younger participants then way overstep the bounds of credibility and credulity by making comments that they are wholly unqualified to render.

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 13):
It's called misrepresentation!

And a lot of other things...
 
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:23 am

What transpires when the Crew schedulers finds the Rostered crew sick & the Standby crew not in a position to fly  Smile
Tough task convincing the 3rd option.
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:13 pm



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 7):
Crew schedulers are human. You help them, they help you. Dump on them, they will dump on you. Simple fact of life.

Never a truer sentence written!!!  Smile
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RE: Airline Crewing Officer

Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:41 pm

Crewing can be an easy job if you have little sickness but as soon as you have used up your standby resources then you have to start asking people to work on days off and the like.
Also I have had people shouting down the phone at me, but they are the minorty!

As Phil Squares says it works both ways, if I help them out they will help me out when I am in a sticky situation and need a flight crewed.

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