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QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:21 pm

Hi All,

Can someone tell me how often QF uses the Longreach aircraft on the flights from SYD and MEL to LAX? I thought it was really strange when I came back from BNE - JFK last Thursday that both the 107 from Sydney and the Melbourne flight were both operated by Longreaches instead of the ER's.

Not to mention, there was a sub on the 175 from Brisbane to a 3 class config a/c as well.

Also, on a side note, is there an indication as to when the paving work between TBIT and T4 at LAX will be completed? We were taken by LAX World Buses out to the remotest of stands for the LAX-JFK sector as a result of that corridor being closed.

Any info would be appreciated.

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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:26 pm



Quoting Aussieindc (Thread starter):
Also, on a side note, is there an indication as to when the paving work between TBIT and T4 at LAX will be completed?

See http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3897458
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:30 pm



Quoting Laxintl (Reply 1):
See http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...97458

Thanks mate! Hopefully someone can lend a hand to my other query.
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:57 pm



Quoting Aussieindc (Reply 2):
Thanks mate! Hopefully someone can lend a hand to my other query.

It basically comes down to the rotation of the fleet... Pacific aircraft have been allocated to the pacific routes however they will operate the kangaroo route at least once / twice a week... Same applies to the kangaroo fleet...

Note: Pacific - 14 / 64 / 265 configure aircraft
Kangaroo - 14 / 52 / 315 or 14 / 52 / 32 /255 configure aircraft

Hope this helps...
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:17 am



Quoting Aussieindc (Thread starter):
Also, on a side note, is there an indication as to when the paving work between TBIT and T4 at LAX will be completed? We were taken by LAX World Buses out to the remotest of stands for the LAX-JFK sector as a result of that corridor being closed.

I'm not exactly sure when the construction finished, but...it's done! I think it probably finished within the last week or so.
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:23 am



Quoting Aussieindc (Thread starter):
Can someone tell me how often QF uses the Longreach aircraft on the flights from SYD and MEL to LAX? I thought it was really strange when I came back from BNE - JFK last Thursday that both the 107 from Sydney and the Melbourne flight were both operated by Longreaches instead of the ER's.

Longreach refers to one of the first destination in Australia that QF served, Longreach NSW.

The 744s in QFs fleet are the same as other Boeing 744s.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Queenslan...each/2005/02/17/1108500203520.html
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:37 am



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 5):
Longreach refers to one of the first destination in Australia that QF served, Longreach NSW.

A slight correction, Longreach is in Queensland and not New South Wales.
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:39 am

MEL is almost always the ER. But winds were very strange the last few days at LAX, so maybe they were also favorable en route to allow the non-ER to handle MEL effectively?
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:41 am

The winds got so strange that they blew strongly from the desert (this doesn't happen in April) and brought 100 degree temps with it. In Hollywood! Sunday was crazy hot. Now it's 30 degrees cooler.
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:07 am

Oops, my bad.

I didn't realize that QF had the only 6 744ERs ever manufactured.

Two extra fuel tanks in the forward cargo hold.
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:21 am

They also have stronger engines and I believe it can store fuel in the tail fin or rear stabilizer.
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:51 am



Quoting Aussieindc (Thread starter):
Not to mention, there was a sub on the 175 from Brisbane to a 3 class config a/c as well.

yes there was a death at BNE of a QF worker so there was an a/c change...also some a/c getting refitted with new interiors.

Quoting Aussieindc (Thread starter):
Can someone tell me how often QF uses the Longreach aircraft on the flights from SYD and MEL to LAX? I thought it was really strange when I came back from BNE - JFK last Thursday that both the 107 from Sydney and the Melbourne flight were both operated by Longreaches instead of the ER's.

all the 744 and the ER's are called Longreach...just difference configurations of the cabin.
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:35 am



Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 10):
They also have stronger engines and I believe it can store fuel in the tail fin or rear stabilizer.

All 744's can store fuel in the horizontal stabiliser.

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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:38 am



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 9):
I didn't realize that QF had the only 6 744ERs ever manufactured.

Air France also ordered some 747-400ERF's

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
all the 744 and the ER's are called Longreach...just difference configurations of the cabin.

Some 744's also have a pacific config as per the 744er's
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:41 am



Quoting ANstar (Reply 13):
Air France also ordered some 747-400ERF's

I think the pax version of the 744ER was what DLPMMM was meaning. Plenty of carriers have the 744ERF.
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:30 pm



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 9):
Two extra fuel tanks in the forward cargo hold

QF only optioned 1 tank in the fwd cargo.

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 10):
They also have stronger engines and I believe it can store fuel in the tail fin or rear stabilizer



Quoting NZ1 (Reply 12):
All 744's can store fuel in the horizontal stabiliser

744D and 744F do not have a HST, but yeah the ER has a HST like most other 744's.
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:24 pm



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
yes there was a death at BNE of a QF worker so there was an a/c change...also some a/c getting refitted with new interiors.

How did the (presumably accidental) death of a QF worker at BNE cause an aircraft change???
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:20 pm



Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 16):

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
yes there was a death at BNE of a QF worker so there was an a/c change...also some a/c getting refitted with new interiors.

How did the (presumably accidental) death of a QF worker at BNE cause an aircraft change???

I would think that the aircraft and the general area would become a de facto crime scene as the death appears to have been unnatural. As such , i would hazard that standard rules of evidence would apply. With the aircraft out of service another frame would be flown up from SYD.
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:36 pm



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
all the 744 and the ER's are called Longreach...just difference configurations of the cabin.

So, how can you tell from the exterior if the QF 744 is a ER or a regular 744? From what you say, it seems as though you can't??
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:50 pm

Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 18):
So, how can you tell from the exterior if the QF 744 is a ER or a regular 744? From what you say, it seems as though you can't??

I believe that the non-ER planes are RR powered, and the ER planes have GE engines. That's the only big difference I know of.

Edit: I guess they also operate 3 non-ER 744s with GE engines inherited from other carriers.

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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:03 pm



Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 18):

Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 18):
So, how can you tell from the exterior if the QF 744 is a ER or a regular 744? From what you say, it seems as though you can't??

I believe that the non-ER planes are RR powered, and the ER planes have GE engines. That's the only big difference I know of.

Well also, the 747-400ER is indicated on the fuselage... It can be hard to see though, but I have definitely seen the ER on a QF fuselage before.
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:23 pm

Thanks all for your input.

Quoting VikingA346 (Reply 18):
So, how can you tell from the exterior if the QF 744 is a ER or a regular 744? From what you say, it seems as though you can't??

I was of the belief that the 747-400ER was written on the side of the aircraft and that each of those airframes did not have the Longreach titles on them. I will have to go and have a look at each of the ER's pictures and check it out.
 
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RE: QF 744 Longreach To USA Instead Of ER's

Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:33 pm

Looks like I'm blind and stupid. Never saw or took any notice of the Longreach titles on the ER's before!

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
yes there was a death at BNE of a QF worker so there was an a/c change...also some a/c getting refitted with new interiors.

My condolences to the family and co-workers of the worker.

Was that from that particular flight though? The reason I ask is that the a/c was on stand from the time we arrived at the airport and there wasn't any significant delay on the flight.

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