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What Did They Do To This Thing?

Sun May 18, 2008 11:24 pm

Hey everyone. I'm fairly sure at least a few of you have seen the movie Iron Man. In the scene where Tony is flying to Afghanistan, it shows some shots of a heavily modified plane that appears to be a BBJ 2. It seems to have a V-tail and downward-angled wingtips, but it is clearly a 737 because of the cockpit window layout and flattened engines. How exactly did they do this, and could it ever fly in reality?
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Sun May 18, 2008 11:57 pm



Quoting UltimateDelta (Thread starter):
How exactly did they do this

I have not seen the movie but the answer is definitively computer animation

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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Mon May 19, 2008 4:17 am

Computer animation. As you say everything forward of the tail looks to be a BBJ2 except the wingtips. The tail is a V-tail with an embedded intake. Very nifty.

Of course it could fly in reality, but you'd need to figure out why you wanted to design it that way.


BTW the movie was great; much better than it "should have been". Superheroes, good actors and good acting? Will wonders never cease? Robert Downey Jr. is stellar.

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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Mon May 19, 2008 7:51 am

Ever watch the "Seconds from disaster" or " Mayday" series.....Those are all computer animated recreating real situations.

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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Mon May 19, 2008 5:17 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
Ever watch the "Seconds from disaster" or " Mayday" series.....Those are all computer animated recreating real situations.

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yea, they do a rather good job of it too.
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Mon May 19, 2008 6:52 pm



Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 2):
Computer animation

What's weird is that that never really ever occured to me as I watched it.
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Tue May 20, 2008 12:28 am

I actually thought they might have done a mock up, like the liner in the last James Bond film..
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Tue May 20, 2008 12:39 am

It looked to me like the 737 BBJ merged with the tail section of the Global Hawk. I really saw no point in this 'modification' except for some subtle advertising for the manufacturers of both. Big grin
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

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Quoting DC-10Tech (Reply 7):
It looked to me like the 737 BBJ merged with the tail section of the Global Hawk. I really saw no point in this 'modification' except for some subtle advertising for the manufacturers of both

Ehm, how about the "cool" factor?  Wink
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Tue May 20, 2008 5:46 am

I seem to remember one of the very earliest jet fighters, either a pre-ME262 prototype or a British analogue of same, had twin underwing mounted engines with nacelles that were slightly flattened on the bottom (a la 737) and a V-tail (2H4, please help me out here if you can).

Perhaps the plane in the Iron Man movie was designed to suggest the aircraft I'm thinking of?
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Tue May 20, 2008 6:35 am

Quoting TSS (Reply 9):
I seem to remember one of the very earliest jet fighters, either a pre-ME262 prototype or a British analogue of same, had twin underwing mounted engines with nacelles that were slightly flattened on the bottom (a la 737) and a V-tail

There's the Messerschmitt Me 262 HG II
http://www.luft46.com/dsart/ds262hg.html

But I have a hard time seeing the BBJ2/Global hawk hybrid look just a little bit like it   

I know it's from wikipedia, but it's the best I've got.

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Interest in high-speed flight, which led him to initiate work on swept wings starting in 1940, is evident from the advanced developments Messerschmitt had on his drawing board in 1944. While the Me-262 HG I actually flight tested in 1944 had only small changes compared to combat aircraft, most notably a low-profile canopy (tried as the Rennkabine (literally racing cabin) on the Me 262 V9 prototype for a short time) to reduce drag, the HG II and HG III designs were far more radical. The projected HG II combined the low-drag canopy with a 35° wing sweep and a butterfly tail. The HG III had a conventional tail, but a 45° wing sweep and turbines embedded in the wingroot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262#cite_ref-14

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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Tue May 20, 2008 9:01 am



Quoting BandA (Reply 4):
yea, they do a rather good job of it too.

A good Link

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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Wed May 21, 2008 12:11 am

Haha when I saw that I cringed. Destroying a perfectly good BBJ for that aeronautical mess.
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:58 am



Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 8):
Ehm, how about the "cool" factor?

I thought of it more as the bizarre factor. Big grin
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RE: What Did They Do To This Thing?

Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:28 am



Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 12):



Haha when I saw that I cringed. Destroying a perfectly good BBJ for that aeronautical mess.

Could it be that the mod of the Aircraft eliminates a legal battle by the Airlcraft manufacturer  Smile

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