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How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:39 pm

Just a simple question, if you put your life to it so you are only into becoming an airline pilot without any outside disturbances except for your summer/christmas holidays, how long do you think it would take to become a fully qualified pilot
 
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:47 pm

I started September 2007, will finish November 2008 and then be fully qualified and signed off on the line around Feb/March 2009 so call it 18 months.
 
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:11 am



Quoting BA777 (Reply 1):
I started September 2007, will finish November 2008 and then be fully qualified and signed off on the line around Feb/March 2009 so call it 18 months.

God was I born on the wrong continent. So little red tape, and bullshit for you guys. However, I wouldn't trade the world for all the hours spent putzing around in Cessnas with my friends.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:25 am

Took me just short of 5 years. Staying one has been almost has hard as getting in the first time.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:58 am



Quoting Soku39 (Reply 2):

Amen on both accounts!!! It seems that we try and justify all the red tape, but indeed it can get burdensome at times.

And to the OP: Indeed you can do anything from a year like BA777 or five like lowrider . Although I am a relative newcomer to this entire learning to be an airline pilot biz, observations tell me to take it at a pace where you can be successful and learn the craft well and as stated so many times on this site to HAVE FUN or the entire quest of glories, red tape and all will be fruitless.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:59 am

September 2003 ab initio training.
May 2006 first airliner right hand seat flight.

It tends to be easyer in the rest of the world to move up to a mainline jet than it is in the USA.

But hey, i never got to fly a turboprop or a corporate jet........so as stated above, you can and should have fun at every stage of the learning curve.....

good luck!

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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:31 pm



Quoting BA777 (Reply 1):

...and you're going to step right into a job flying passengers.....???? You need to add that time in as well.

Quoting Ag92 (Thread starter):

Right now, with airlines laying off again its only getting harder to get a job with the airlines. Keep in mind that with the current market conditions pay is only going down.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:41 pm

Puzzles me too. How can someone still long to be an airline pilot?

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6):
with airlines laying off again

Don't worry. Allowing foreign, state-subsidized airlines to fly domestic US is coming as fast as the profiteers in Congress can swing it.

Original question: Like they said - depends on what country you are talking about. Here, maybe two years to get qualified, ten years to get hired.

I took the slow track. 14 years from first lesson to first job at a company with "airlines" in its name. Another nine years after that before I flew for "a real airline"
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:36 pm



Quoting SlamClick (Reply 7):
How can someone still long to be an airline pilot?

Still beats nine-to-fives, SlamClick.
For me, two years af advanced maths to prepare the competitive examination for the Air academy, then three and half years for the licence. Joined an airline and was line-qualified six months later. Never looked back since.
Nowadays, the two first years still help and youngsters either join the air academy or one opf the cadet pilots schemes. Eighteen to twenty four months later, the join an airline and are released on the line after six months. Total time : Two to two-and half years, plus holidays and waiting for trainer's availabilities.
Please note thatif the trend continues, these youngsters should qualify for a left-hand seat after some seven years.
Of course I am talking about situations outside the US.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:23 pm

It just depends on where your at and what the economy is doing. With the US economy taking a nosedive these days its gonna take longer. I have a friend who just turned 30. He graduated high school in '97. Then he went to one of the bigger flight schools. He then flew charter & frieight (mostly piston twins). He then got hired by Skywest (the regionals were hiring like mad then). Now he's flying freight as an FO for a 747 operator. So it just depends on where you go and lots of variables get involved. The most important thing I can say is find something else you like for a profession, with all of the airline cutbacks these days there are lots of pilots looking for work. Good luck.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:12 pm



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 6):
...and you're going to step right into a job flying passengers.....???? You need to add that time in as well.

EMBQA aviation in the rest of the world is completely different than the US. I'm sure you're familiar with the usual US route where you go into the military or fund your own training, then flight instructor, make connections and get lucky. Well in Europ, Asia, S. America, Africa... pretty much anywhere else that they have airlines you get hired, and go from 0 flight time directly to an A320 (or whatever) anywhere from a year and a half to 3 years, getting paid (well) every step of the way. This is done by airlines having their own fleets of props/learjets or whatever, as well as outsourcing that training to flight schools in the U.S. Getting hired for lufthansa/BA/Air India takes quite a bit of apptitude, but there is nowhere near the heartbreak and the long road that becoming a pilot in the U.S. or Canada is, they either want you, or they don't.

Slam I have all the respect for you that I could have for someone whom I've never personally met, but surely you don't think the wannabes/regional guys on this board are complete morons for not wanting to be accountants and construction workers. I'm having quite the time simply being a flight instructor, and will stick with the flying as long as I can.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:51 pm



Quoting Soku39 (Reply 10):

I was just questioning "just 18 months from walking into a classroom on day one knowing nothing about flight, to sitting in the right seat flying passengers". That sounds really short....I remember while in AP school.. the flight guys were just reaching Instructor ratings at the 12 month mark with very limited duel time....

and sure... with this second round of down times in my career I've though to myself, if I was not doing this.. what would I be doing..? I have no clue.. I like what I do.
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:31 am

What about Australia?
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RE: How Long To Become An Airline Pilot

Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:15 am

The thing I'll throw in, you may take the fire-hose route to training (ATP's program), or you may enjoy it and take a brisk (yet manageable) approach to it at a maw and pop flying club like I did, but the bottom line...enjoy it while it's there.

Alot of pilots, myself included, spent so much time wanting to be done and be in the right seat of a jet, that you never end up smelling the roses until it's long past, and you're sitting in your hotel room in some dank city, wishing you were out put-putting around on a glorious x/c in an Arrow on a nice sunday. Then again it's always a fond memory you can look back on while you're enjoying the fruits of your hard labor.

Just some food for thought  Smile

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