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Saha Air 707 Windows

Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:20 pm

Hi all,

Just noticed that the Saha Air 707s seem to have very irregular windows on the port side. Is there any reason for this? Specifically, the 'double' window just over the registration and the 'bunches' under the titles (which could be, like on some 737s, for aircon/electrics, I suppose).

Here's the picture that drew my curiosity:


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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:33 am

The slight window spacing differences under the titles are at the edges of the main-deck cargo door (it's a 707-320C convertible passenger/freighter). Look at any other photos of 707-320Cs and you'll see the same thing.

All other windows look normal except for that strange "double" window near the rear. I have never seen anything like that before on a 707. It also appears in other A.net photos of the same aircraft.
 
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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:26 am

The specific aircraft was delivered to the Iranian Air Force, and originally used as a tanker-transport.
 
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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:54 am

The Double Window aft seems interesting.any Idea why the wider visability was needed?
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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:19 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 3):
any Idea why the wider visability was needed?

...and how they fit it in between the fuselage frames?

From looking at the database:

- the other two Saha Air 707-320s also have this double window
- at least one of them has the double window on the other side of the fuselage as well
- not all IIAF 707s had them installed, only the last few aircraft


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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:59 pm



Quoting LY744 (Reply 4):
...and how they fit it in between the fuselage frames?

You mean the Stringers,right?
That can be eaisly accomplished by a structural mod.

I guess it looks like they needed a wider view for some reason at that location through which there would have been a station using some equipment.

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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:04 pm

Fuselage frames is the correct term.
The larger windows were for observers for the hose/drouge refueling system installed on each wing tip.
 
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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:16 pm

All of which goes to prove, I think, that the aircraft (serial 1002) depicted in these photos is a 707-3J9C and not a -370C, as it has been recorded in this site's database and elsewhere for many years:


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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:26 pm



Quoting 411A (Reply 6):
The larger windows were for observers for the hose/drouge refueling system installed on each wing tip.

Can you elobrate on this pls.?
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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:59 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 8):
Quoting 411A (Reply 6):
The larger windows were for observers for the hose/drouge refueling system installed on each wing tip.

Can you elaborate on this pls.?

It was originally equipped with both a tail-mounted refuelling boom (you can see the remnants of that in the first photo) as well as wingtip-mounted hose-and-drogue refuelling pods. The larger windows were presumably to make it easier to monitor the latter operation.

Another aircraft of the same model with the original refuelling equipment, and the large window.


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Photos of an Australian Air Force 707 modified with the wingtip hose-and-drogue equipment. I think the last of those RAAF 707s (ex-Qantas) were only recently retired.


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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:04 pm

Wow, thanks to all for clearing that one up!

What an amazing modification; indeed, shame we don't see more of them! I've started to notice how tiny modern a/c windows are after a flight on a Tu134, so flying that Saha 707 would be something of a dream come true!

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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:48 pm

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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:58 am

Hello all,

Here's the seat your all talking about, its 29A.

This is me on a flight from KIH-THR in Feb 2007....my 3rd Saha 707 flight in as many days...

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Seat 29A on a SAHA B707


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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:33 pm



Quoting TUGMASTER (Reply 12):
Here's the seat your all talking about, its 29A.

Nice catch.
Pity the edit though.
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RE: Saha Air 707 Windows

Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:06 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 13):
Pity the edit though.

If you've seen me, i think you'll find it's an improvement Big grin

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