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Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:48 am

I'm flying on an a319 next week and will have some perishables in my luggage, I was wondering what the temperature in the hold will be?
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:01 am



Quoting ORDPIA (Thread starter):
I'm flying on an a319 next week and will have some perishables in my luggage, I was wondering what the temperature in the hold will be?

It depends. The flight crew has some control over cargo hold temperature, and the temperature can vary between the forward and aft holds. The cargo hold temperature, initially, will also depend a lot on the ambient conditions around the aircraft.

In a nutshell...you probably can't tell. If you're worried about too cold you're probably OK...it doesn't usually go below freezing. If you're worried about too hot, that's a little more iffy.

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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:38 am

It will be close to the cabin temp.... maybe a little cooler
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:47 am

On Boeing aircraft only the aft Cargo compartment is pressurized/ temperature controlled. The settings can be changed/monitored from the flight deck. Airbus I believe it is also only the back (haven't done HP in a long time) same deal. Usually before departure the flight deck crew is advised of any live animals or perishables aboard the aircraft so that the proper steps are taken.
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:19 am

It depends on the contents of the Cargo in the Bulk holds.If its live stock,Temp mantained is between 18-24degC.If its perishables below 10degC.Each individual hold can have its temperature regulated as needed.

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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:31 am



Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 3):
On Boeing aircraft only the aft Cargo compartment is pressurized/ temperature controlled.

All the cargo compartments on Boeing aircraft are pressurized.
 
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:35 am



Quoting 474218 (Reply 5):
All the cargo compartments on Boeing aircraft are pressurized.

Thanks, I was gonna delete it but i got distracted
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:54 am



Quoting ORDPIA (Thread starter):

Depends on the A319, some have heated cargo holds which airlines use for the carriage of animals, unheated holds would be around 10 deg C.
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:41 am

Plus, for most cargo holds, the exhaust air from the pax cabin is exhausted around the cargo bin sidewalls keeping it warm.

On the DC9-10/-30/-40/-50, there was what they euphemistically called a "puppy snuffer" switch, which would vent cabin exhaust air overboard so there was no warming in the cargo hold, so the result was a canine ice cube.

I also remember reading somewhere that the CRJ200 couldnt do live animals; cant recall why.
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:55 pm

Thanks for the answers. It looks like I'll need to pack some extra ice.
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:26 pm



Quoting ORDPIA (Reply 9):
hanks for the answers. It looks like I'll need to pack some extra ice.

You might want to look into that as well. I don't think you can pack ice.
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:04 am



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 10):

You might want to look into that as well. I don't think you can pack ice.

You definitely can with some airlines...dry ice is probably out but water ice, properly packaged, seems OK. The seafood stores in Seattle will all pack up your purchase in ice for 24 or 48 hours travel and they seems to suggest that it's OK for any of the airlines that come here. Customs at the other end is a different matter.

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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:01 am

If its something you want to keep cold, wrap it in newspaper then aluminum foil. Should stay cold for 10/12 hours. I commonly carred frozen food from ATL to LHR in my checked bags. Then on to Oxfordshire (by auto) without it completly thawing.
 
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:54 am



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 11):
dry ice is probably out

The IATA dangerous good regulations says that dry ice, in quantities not exceeding 2.5 kg (5 lb) per passenger when used to pack perishables can be carried in either check in or carry on luggage.

Carry on luggage should be packaged so that it permits the release of carbon dioxide gas. Dry ice in checked baggage requires operator approval and each item of checked baggage must be marked “dry ice” or “carbon dioxide, solid” and with the net weight of dry ice or an indication that there is 2.5 kg or less dry ice.

When you want to carry dry ice, contact the airline first, also keep in mind the the airline may permit something, but the TSA or equivalent may not.
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:35 am



Quoting Zeke (Reply 13):
When you want to carry dry ice, contact the airline first, also keep in mind the the airline may permit something, but the TSA or equivalent may not.

Remember catering frozen foods are packed with dry ice & placed in the galley area,that needs to be taken into consideration in the cabin airflow too.If DryIce leaks are present.
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:40 pm



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 11):
You definitely can with some airlines...dry ice is probably out but water ice, properly packaged, seems OK. The seafood stores in Seattle will all pack up your purchase in ice for 24 or 48 hours travel and they seems to suggest that it's OK for any of the airlines that come here.

I've had good luck with bags of frozen peas...lasts longer and less messy!
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:24 am



Quoting 474218 (Reply 5):
All the cargo compartments on Boeing aircraft are pressurized.

All compartments on ALL commercial jet aircraft are pressurized.

In general the regular heated compartment is usually the aft most one, except on Douglas/MD aircraft, where it is the forward most compartment.
 
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RE: Cargo Hold Temperature

Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:52 am



Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 16):
In general the regular heated compartment is usually the aft most one, except on Douglas/MD aircraft, where it is the forward most compartment.

On the B732 its the Fwd too.heated indirectly by the air flowing over the electronics modules.
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