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keesje
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Changing Fuel-tank Safety Rules Spark Controversy

Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:44 pm

FAA to loosen fuel-tank safety rules, benefiting Boeing's 787

Tomaso DiPaolo, NATCA's aircraft-certification national representative, charges that when FAA engineers raised their safety concerns internally management simply removed them from the team developing the new policy.

The FAA ignored its own technical people, he said, while making sure Boeing agreed with the policy change.

"It's another example of the FAA getting too close to industry," said DiPaolo. "It appears that whatever Boeing wants, Boeing gets."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ospace/2008719843_lightning08.html


Hope this is not what it looks like on first sight..

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RE: Changing Fuel-tank Safety Rules Spark Controversy

Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:13 pm



Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):
Hope this is not what it looks like on first sight..

Strangely enough this airplane survived the lightning strike... and under the old rules to boot...
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RE: Changing Fuel-tank Safety Rules Spark Controversy

Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:05 pm

How many planes have we lost due to this? While I think the NTSB generally does good work, this rule is a case of them taking advantage of a situation to try and force unneeded requirements. The FAA realized they overreacted. No other authority requires this for certification, and no other transport category aircraft complies with this.
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RE: Changing Fuel-tank Safety Rules Spark Controversy

Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:40 pm

There's a lot of "he said, she said" going on in that article. I'd be willing to bet that the 787 will be the safest yet in terms of fuel tanks. And for people to suggest that there be no MEL relief whatsoever for a system that protects only in very low probability situations in unrealistic.
 
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RE: Changing Fuel-tank Safety Rules Spark Controversy

Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:34 am



Quoting Lowrider (Reply 2):
How many planes have we lost due to this?

Four, I think. It's a pretty low number, whatever it is. At least two of them were on the ground and people evacuated.

Quoting Lowrider (Reply 2):
While I think the NTSB generally does good work, this rule is a case of them taking advantage of a situation to try and force unneeded requirements.

True. The whole fuel-tank flammability thing doesn't even come close to getting over the cost/benefit threshold for retrofit.

Quoting Lowrider (Reply 2):
The FAA realized they overreacted. No other authority requires this for certification, and no other transport category aircraft complies with this.

EASA actually said this several years ago...they put their foot down and didn't just follow the FAA because they thought the FAA position was excessive.

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