wing
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Angels Work Overtime For New Captains :)

Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:56 pm

"Angels work overtime for new Captains." I heard this from a veteran Captain during my captain training ,and I experienced this first hand during my first 100 hours of left seat flying with a tyre problem and a TCAS RA.The thing that I am proud is that I havent missed a slot,yet.But I learned my lessons.

I had a nose wheel tyre which a metal luggage part stuck in it,I asked a techician to check if it is out of limits and he agreed with me so I decided to change it.They finished the work the passengers boarded we had 4 minuttes for the slot time so I asked him if he had removed the landing gear pins,he said he didnt used any and I check them and saw both 3 in the cockpit,also I asked the push back technician to visually look at the changed landing gear and they told me nothing unusual and everything looked fine.So we pushed back departed,flew all the way back to Istanbul from Stansted and parked to our gate.

As we leave the airplane technician in istanbul told me that he wanted to show something.There was a whole ""REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT" flag was stuck between the tyre and nose wheel hub.We were surprised how it stuck in there and how someone-who is not blind-didnt see it.Lesson learned always check yourself even it is a licenced mechanic.

Second was a TCAS RA,caused by an ATC instuction to clear us and the climbing traffic to the same level.We were coming from FL 250 and requested descend.We recieved descent clearance to level 220 initially due to traffic, and we read it back as "decending level 220."I saw the opposite traffic on TCAS so I started descent with 1000 fpm to avoid nuisance TA.as we close to the other trafic TCAS sounded "Traffic Traffic" so further reduced descent rate to 700 fpm.few seconds later we heard "CLIMB CLIMB" and responded imidiately diconnect th AP and started climb,we climbed 600 feet and reported to ATC.Later we discovered that she cleared the climbing(different company similar callsign) traffic also to FL220.Lesson learned, be aware with the similar call signs in the vicinity.

Now as I reached to 200 hour mark I hope my angels has to work less and less everyday.
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RE: Angels Work Overtime For New Captains :)

Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:37 pm

It really is amazing how much the job changes from right seat to left isn't it? I do my best to get in the decision making and think of everything but experience triumphs all at this stage. It amazes me how much stuff I miss or don't even think about.
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RE: Angels Work Overtime For New Captains :)

Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:52 pm



Quoting Pilotpip (Reply 1):
It really is amazing how much the job changes from right seat to left isn't it

Same company,same airplane but a whole different responsibility.When I was a FO I always had a chance to look to my left when things go complicated now all I see is the window when I look to my left.

For those who are curious, flying with my left hand -after flying from the right for 8 years- took only half an hour to adjust.On the second day of simulators(first day is familiarization) it starts with all the failures from the left seat and I had no major handling difficulties .
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RE: Angels Work Overtime For New Captains :)

Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:31 am



Quoting Wing (Thread starter):
Later we discovered that she cleared the climbing(different company similar callsign) traffic also to FL220.Lesson learned, be aware with the similar call signs in the vicinity.

A huge lesson!

There are numerous similar sounding call sign events each day especially into HUB airports. I can recall a few years back where during a particular arrival bank from Mexico into IAH you would have 5-6 very similar sounding call signs that created havoc each day. It was brought to the particular operators attention, marketing actually paid attention and changed the entire way they assigned flight numbers.

Best course of action I've found is to have the crew file a safety report in their company paperwork at the end of the flight sighting possible pilot deviations/controller errors due to an incorrect read back and numerous other reasons.

Be Alert.
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RE: Angels Work Overtime For New Captains :)

Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:20 am

Its true......folks doing their jobs in Aviation need to follow it up 100%.It gets annoying when thats not done.
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RE: Angels Work Overtime For New Captains :)

Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:38 pm



Quoting Wing (Thread starter):

As we leave the airplane technician in istanbul told me that he wanted to show something.There was a whole ""REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT" flag was stuck between the tyre and nose wheel hub.We were surprised how it stuck in there and how someone-who is not blind-didnt see it.Lesson learned always check yourself even it is a licenced mechanic.

Good. You had a learning experience. Beat yourself up over it. OK. Done? Learn something? Don't do it again.

Good man.

I've had a LOT of "learning experiences." Sometimes I wasn't the only one beating myself up over it. Aviation and healthcare have in common the problem that the price of error is enormous. I hate those experiences, but you sure do learn from them.

You get a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the former before emptying the latter.
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