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"Handles" On A320 Wings

Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:36 pm

This has probably been asked before, but I couldn't find anything on search.

What are those "handles" on the wings of A320 aircraft?


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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:52 pm

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:58 pm

Bad choice of search keywords, then. Thank you, CitationJet.
 
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:37 am

On checking the link above I noticed that of all the answers not one is correct. Those lugs have nothing to do with maintenance. The 320 does not carry life rafts, but may have slide/rafts at the doors.

Those lugs are there to be used should the overwing slide deflate. The deflated slide will then be attached to the lugs and can still be used handheld by able bodied pre briefed pax.
 
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:44 am

Ok in a perfectly executed and planned ditching a crewmember will go to the overwings (prior to ditching) and remove two "packets" from the overhead locker (the really small one at the overwings - its about 3-4 inches long), these packets contain straps. After the aircraft comes to a stop and the exits are opened the straps are fixed to the inside of the door frame and extended out to these "ditching hooks", they are designed to allow passengers to move further up the wing in a water evactuation.

The slide at the wing will deploy but will be useless, all of the A320s I've worked on had slide-rafts at the other exits.

If a 5th crewmember is carried that crewmember will normally relocate to the overwings to assist the evacuation there. Incidentally, when I was working on a leased 737-400 our ditching (planned) procedure was for the crew to remove the slide-packs from the aft exits and a crewmember from the rear exit and forward exit will take them to the overwings and remain their for the evacuation, leaving a single crewmember at the front (to evacuate from 1L/1R) and one at the aft to block the isle (as the rear doors should not be opened in a ditching).

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:42 pm

Did they use these after the US Airways ditching.
 
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:10 am



Quoting Rscaife1682 (Reply 5):
Did they use these after the US Airways ditching.

No, I don't believe they were used in the US Ditching, since it was not a planned ditching there was no time to brief the passengers on how to use these and if in fact the straps were even on-board. (we never briefed passengers about the straps during a pre-pushback exit row talk).

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:34 pm



Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 6):
we never briefed passengers about the straps during a pre-pushback exit row talk

Wouldn't the crew attach the same.
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:52 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Wouldn't the crew attach the same.

Yes the crew would attach the ropes, however this is only in a planned ditching. In all fairness it is not worth briefing the passengers on this.

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:07 pm



Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 8):

Yes the crew would attach the ropes, however this is only in a planned ditching. In all fairness it is not worth briefing the passengers on this.

Exactly what I was saying.
Was this done on the hudson ditching.
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:40 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 9):
Was this done on the hudson ditching

Looking at the pictures of the evacuation in progress it does not appear that the ropes were used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pl...h_into_Hudson_River_%28crop%29.jpg

The NTSB report may include further details on this when it is published.

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:19 am



Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 10):

Looking at the pictures of the evacuation in progress it does not appear that the ropes were used.

I thought so too.I wonder why the crew did not use it as a hand hold.
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:31 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 11):
I wonder why the crew did not use it as a hand hold.

The main thing that springs to mind is that since it was not a planned ditching there wasn't enough time for crew to do this (some airlines can require a crewmember to move to the overwings prior to the ditching). The other reason could be that they are not loaded onboard, since they could be an "optional extra".

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:49 am



Quoting FlyingColours (Reply 12):
it was not a planned ditching

I was thinking post ditching....With pax standing on the wing it would have provided a hand hold.
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:49 pm

Virgin Atlantic's one and only A320 carried the "escape straps" for use in a ditching. Although the "rings" are fitted to BA's A320 wings the straps are not.

There is a single ring closer to the fuselage at the aft of the wing too, this is used to attach a hook from the offwing slide if it deflates thus taughtening the slide to be used handheld.
 
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:43 am



Quoting Speedmarque (Reply 14):
Virgin Atlantic's one and only A320 carried the "escape straps" for use in a ditching. Although the "rings" are fitted to BA's A320 wings the straps are not

Is that not a regulatory issue if not available for use?

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:31 pm



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 15):
Is that not a regulatory issue if not available for use?

Depends on the operator's operation specification. If they're not doing overwater flights, it may not be required.

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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:43 pm



Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 16):
If they're not doing overwater flights, it may not be required.

That would restrict their options to very few airports.Would that make business sense.
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RE: "Handles" On A320 Wings

Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:13 am



Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 17):


Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 16):
If they're not doing overwater flights, it may not be required.

That would restrict their options to very few airports

"Overwater" from a regulatory point of view is some number of miles from land...you can do the entire North America market without having to be equipped for overwater.

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