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What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:32 pm

I didn't see another topic about this, so I thought I would ask. What is the process for retiring an aircraft? All I know is what happens on the surface (i.e flying it to the desert), but what happens after it gets there? Is it put up for sale for a certain period of time, then it gets scrapped, or is it up to the owner what happens to it?
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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:57 pm



Quoting C5LOAD (Thread starter):
or is it up to the owner what happens to it?

It depends on the value of the plane, if it is worth more in bits then often an airline will opt to mothball for the parts they want.
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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:15 am



Quoting C5LOAD (Thread starter):
I didn't see another topic about this, so I thought I would ask. What is the process for retiring an aircraft? All I know is what happens on the surface (i.e flying it to the desert), but what happens after it gets there? Is it put up for sale for a certain period of time, then it gets scrapped, or is it up to the owner what happens to it?

Two words for you:

Beer Cans.

Seriously...


It is always up to the owner.

Remember that storage costs rent money per month even in the desert.

If the plane cannot be sold by the owner, then usually some parts can be resold on the open market, and some can be scrapped for salvage (copper wires, etc).

The rest of the plane ends up holding your Budweiser.
 
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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:40 am



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 2):
Remember that storage costs rent money per month even in the desert.

Then why are some fuselages still intact with no engines, flaps, rudders, etc. still sitting there? Like these DC-10s, are they costing their previous owner money still or does the scrapping company own them?


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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:58 am



Quoting C5LOAD (Reply 3):
Then why are some fuselages still intact with no engines, flaps, rudders, etc. still sitting there? Like these DC-10s, are they costing their previous owner money still or does the scrapping company own them?



The disassembly / scrapping of an airliner can cost $100,000 or more, depending on what you want to keep for later use. Simple storage of a hull (without concern for airworthiness), can be as cheap as $500 per month. Perhaps the owners are just delaying the expense of the tear down.

It may also be for tax reasons, or wishful thinking waiting for a sale.
 
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:59 am



Quoting C5LOAD (Reply 3):
Then why are some fuselages still intact with no engines, flaps, rudders, etc. still sitting there? Like these DC-10s, are they costing their previous owner money still or does the scrapping company own them?

It depends, sometimes the engines are owned by a seperate company than the airframe. In this case, the 5th DC-10-40 is a hint on why these are being stored intact: The 5th is the prototype KDC-10 for Omega, under the name of a seperate venture. The other airframes are probably waiting for conversion if/when the contract is signed.


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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:40 am

Mostly The metal is Sold as scrap & the spares are reutilized.
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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:39 pm



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 2):
Two words for you:

Beer Cans.

Seriously...

Not seriously.... The aluminum used in aircraft can not be used to produce food products.
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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:42 pm

http://www.uaminc.com/images/photos/...f%20Life%20Recycling%20Program.pdf

There's some info on one aircraft dismantler, prices start at

$35,000 for narrow and $65,000 for wide bodies.
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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:26 pm



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 7):
Not seriously.... The aluminum used in aircraft can not be used to produce food products.

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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:14 pm



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 2):
Two words for you:

Beer Cans.

Seriously...

Actually not. The aluminum alloy used in aircraft is not suitable for food or beverage containers. Apparently it's too difficult to extract the other metals as part of the recycling process.
 
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RE: What Happens To An A/c When It Is Retired?

Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:21 am

Without names....There was a company that picked an old B732 & scrapped it,sold the parts & managed to earn more on that than the cost initially paid for the aircraft.  
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